7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

I’ve long thought that DHS is nothing more than a ready political law enforcement agency created for express use of Republicans when they’re in power. They don’t seem to protect us from much of anything that poses a domestic threat.

I agree it’s a distressing report. Also shocking but not surprising. There’s a culture in that agency that is hostile to democracy. I’ve no doubt Alejandro Mayorkas is doing all he can to rehab the place, but it’s an awfully heavy lift.

You can tell he must be doing something right because the GOP wants to impeach him. Some of the crazier House members are using this as leverage on McCarthy in the upcoming Speaker contest.

I’m curious how long before Gym Jordan or MTG start trying to blame this failure on Pelosi or Biden.

Didn’t they start on January 7? Saying that Pelosi was in charge of Capitol security.

Yeah, it didn’t take 'em long at all.

Yes they did.

My point is the report is new and very specially shows warnings were ignored by the previous administration. When this gets pointed out in the coming “investigations” by the GOP I expect these clowns to try to turn it on Pelosi and Democrats.

I’m not so much interested in why the warnings weren’t heeded or who quashed them. I suspect it’s more a case of institutional inertia and/or negligence than intentional conspiracy with the insurrectionists.

What I want to know is whether the information and messages tracked by the analyst is new to the DOJ, and if it can be used to investigate some of the higher-ups who haven’t yet been indicted. Can the posters be identified and tracked?

Trump blamed the insurrection on Democrats. Saying that they wanted the riot/insurrection to happen or they would have had 10,000 troops there to stop it. Saw a blurb about it. He was interviewed on OAN. :roll_eyes:

And of course MTG said she and Bannon could have got the insurection done.

WHO THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE?

Seditionists at best, traitors at worst.

Or just your everyday, run of the mill MAGAat.

I think that it is also an case that determining which threats are real vs which are just mouthing off is a lot easier in 20/20 hindsight. We don’t hear about the hundred other reports that were written about right wing extremists talking shit about revolution that never went beyond the armchair general stage.

Yeah, good point. It reminds me of the stories that came out after 9/11 about analysts who sniffed out the terrorists’ plans but couldn’t get their agencies to act on those suspicions. We never hear about the analysts who sniff out plans that don’t materialize, but they probably outnumber the real ones 100-1.

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US was the title of the President’s Daily Brief prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency and given to U.S. President George W. Bush on Monday, August 6, 2001. The brief warned, 36 days before the September 11 attacks, of terrorism threats from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, including “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for a hijacking” of U.S. aircraft.[1]

During 2001, CIA analysts produced several reports warning of imminent attacks by Bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Senior officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney and staff from Donald Rumsfeld’s office at the Department of Defense, questioned whether these reports might not be deception on the part of al-Qaeda, purposely designed to needlessly expend resources in response.

OK, bad example. :grimacing:

Absolutely fair point. But based on this particular article they had a ton of specific, credible information that got stuck in the machine that’s supposed to suss out the wheat from the chaff. It didn’t even result in an official but bland “heads up” warning that there was chatter, perhaps heightened security or awareness might be warranted in these places at these times.

1/6 defendant charged with plotting to murder the FBI agents who investigated him.
bcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-riot-defendant-planned-kill-fbi-agents-investigated-unsealed-f-rcna62214

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Ha! I was just going to ask if it was NBC!

It’s like the idea of only getting 5 years in the slammer isn’t good enough for them - they have to try for 20 - life.

Idjits.

Yeah. Do they think that if they kill the guy who got the goods on them, the government has to let them go?