7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

I should also mention the ADSEP will be soon, not after their ssntence is completed. Granted it has been some time since I retired, but I don’t see the laws and regulation regarding this changing that much.

I wonder if they know this nut.

FWIW, Convicted OathKeeper Jessica Watkins is a transgender woman.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/26/politics/oath-keepers-jessica-watkins-sentencing/index.html

From that cite:

it blocks them from leading or actively participating in those events, publishing partisan political statements outside of a letter to the editor,

I wonder how “letter to the editor” is currently interpreted. Would it include, say, comments on somebody else’s web page? comments only on the web pages of official news sites, and if so, who gets to be considered an official news site? only something officially categorized as a “letter to the editor”?

– none of that, of course, would apply to remaining at a protest that has turned violent and actively illegally tresspassing.

I don’t know much either, but I gather that a dishonorable discharge is reserved for more serious crimes (murder etc), and is given only after a military court martial.

They’ll probably get “Other Than Honorable Discharge” (OTH) They probably won’t get a Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD) as this must be given via court martial as well.

Wonder if that takes away any military benefits. Pension, VA etc.

I understand (from Wikipedia) that “Veterans with an OTH discharge and considered “Honorable for VA purposes” may still apply for the full enrollment in the VA.”


During the very same hour in which the former president surrendered to federal authorities in Miami, his Republican allies in the House were, in their most visible and official way yet, embracing as heroes and martyrs the people who sacked the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, in hopes of overturning Trump’s election defeat.

In the Capitol complex, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), with sidekick Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and four other far-right lawmakers, held a “hearing” that honored participants in the riot, family members of Jan. 6 rioters and organizers of the attempted overthrow of the 2020 vote.

Technically, Gaetz couldn’t call such a hearing, because he isn’t a committee chairman. But House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who is trying to win back the support of extremists such as Gaetz, let it happen anyway.

The invited witnesses?

  • The wife of Ronald McAbee, who is awaiting trial for allegedly attacking a police officer and dragging him into the mob while wearing a black vest that said “SHERIFF.”
  • Underwear model John Strand, sentenced to two years and eight months for being part of the mob that breached the Capitol on Jan. 6 and pushed past police officers.
  • Activist Brandon Straka, sentenced to home detention and probation and fined for his Jan. 6 actions.
  • The aunt of Matthew Perna; Perna committed suicide while awaiting sentencing for his role in breaching the Capitol.
  • Ed Martin, an organizer of the “Stop the Steal” effort leading up to Jan. 6.
  • And Jeffrey Clark, the Trump Justice Department official who tried to get states to toss the election results.

Gaetz opened the hearing with a video suggesting FBI culpability in the Jan. 6 attack. He claimed he “became aware of evidence” that the Justice Department had evidence of “fraud in the election” but Trump Attorney General “Bill Barr was suppressing evidence.”

Gosar blamed the attack on “people undercover, whether it be antifa, FBI, whatever.” Norman suggested that the FBI was framing people who weren’t involved in the attack.

My bold.

Long, disturbing article. If you thought it was bad… well, it’s worse than that.

Each one of the Congress members supporting that hearing are enemies of this country. I don’t think that I am being in any way hyperbolic in saying so.

This is like having a group in Congress honoring the 9/11 hijackers for their brave sacrifices.

Even for these guys, It’s stunning and depressing.

They’re too stupid to attach any symbolism to what they did. It’s the “own the libs” endorphin rush all the way. It’s like crack to them and their idiot followers.

Don’t give MTG ideas.
‘Steel doesn’t just melt. 911 was a targeted energy weapon, jew space lasers.’ ~ Future MTG

She already has ideas.

(JEWISH) SPACE LASERS

9/11 ATTACKS

This is why, as elated as I am that Trump has finally been indicted for the documents case, I sincerely hope Mr. Smith has Jan. 6 indictments in the works. Not necessarily for Trump – although he certainly deserves them – but also for the co-conspirators in his administration and in Congress.

They may not be traitors in the legal sense, but they have betrayed their country and deserve every penalty the law can apply.

I have been reading analysis that said that the pressure campaign on Mike Pence,was also illegal, and is worthy of being looked into by the special council.

Daniel Rodriguez: Man who attacked officer Michael Fanone on January 6 sentenced to over 12 years in prison | CNN Politics

one of the longer sentences. from the article:

As Rodriguez exited the courtroom Wednesday, he defiantly shouted that “Trump won!” repeating the same lie that ultimately culminated in the Capitol attack.

During Wednesday’s sentencing, Judge Amy Berman Jackson called Rodriguez as a “one-man army” who, in the lead-up to January 6, called for “blood in the streets,” revolution, and violence against Donald Trump’s enemies in a Telegram group chat he created.

Jackson, who called Rodriguez’s attack on Fanone a “horrific assault,” noted that while Rodriguez was trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, Fanone “was protecting the very foundation of democracy.”

“He was protecting America,” she said.

Well, THAT’S interesting…

So I gather the fake electors must now testify, and they can’t invoke the 5th, because Smith removed the possibility that they will incriminate themselves.

And if they lie, they can be charged with perjury.

And they are not sure what other evidence Smith has, so they dare not lie.

And if they now refuse to testify, they can be charged with contempt and jailed.

Perhaps it’s time for them to start talking about who was behind the fake electors scheme.

That’s my take on it.