Is this really the case? The few MAGAs I can’t avoid contact with claim that the Jan 6 rioters are noble patriots being persecuted by the Democrats.
I could see a MAGA believing the rioters are false-flag actors if you corner him and make him watch particularly violent videos of Jan 6. “Oh, yeah! That guy with the pepper spray is definitely antifa! And FBI too!”
And no early release on parole from federal prison.
Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part, but they are not really getting national attention from the leaders of the MAGA movement, as “noble patriots being persecuted” would deserve. Granted, a lot of those people have their own problems right now. I checked Fox News and Newsmax and they both have a brief story well down the page. Trump has posted over 100 times on Truth Social in the last couple days and hasn’t bothered to mention them. Of course, I don’t believe he has mentioned that any of his co-indictees are being persecuted either, so that’s not surprising. It just appears that anyone not named Donald Trump is an afterthought, if that, with the MAGA nation.
We can agree they are not very bright. But Trump could have pardoned all of them before he left office and he didn’t do that. They will spend almost two years in prison before there is a chance of a pardon. That may be a wake-up call for them.
Except none of them had been charged with a crime at that point. And certainly Trump didn’t think that any crime had been committed on 1/6. And he still doesn’t.
And it won’t be the Club Fed type of prison the white-collar higher-ups can expect if/when they’re convicted.
It was discussed at the time if Trump would give pre-emptive pardons to the rioters. A lot of them were certainly hoping that he would.
Why Donald Trump never pardoned his Capitol riot accomplices (azcentral.com)
You don’t have to be charged with a crime to get a pardon. Richard Nixon, to give a very prominent example, had not been charged when Ford pardoned him. Similarly, the Vietnam draft resisters had mostly not been charged with crimes when Carter pardoned them.
For the record, I don’t think Trump will pardon those folks ( if god forbid he wins again) unless his advisors carefully persuade him - after all, he doesn’t reward losers, and they didn’t keep him in office.
Although, he could be persuaded if it would be a huge media circus where they were all thanking him on bended knees with tears in their eyes. That sort of showboating he’d love, but anyway…
But anyone other than Trump? I’d bed they will, using the language above, so they can fake the “kindler, gentler” and also show the crowds that may not love them as much as Trump that they’ve got their (the fanatics) back.
2 more for today. One is in court now, one to follow this afternoon.
10 years for the man who broke the window and breached the capitol.
I believe each of the 3 have been in the military. For me that would have taken the sentence up. You are taught to not follow unlawful orders.
I’m still amazed the first ones through were not shot.
He should consider himself luck he’s alive to serve 10 years.
As soon as the judge left the court, pezzola yelled out “trump won” as he was lead away. While the judge was there, tearfully apology.
Not quite the “Eppur si muove” moment he was probably going for.
Probably won’t help his effort to get time off his sentence, either.
It does call into question his claim of remorse. /s
Enjoy prison, fuckwit. Trump lost.
Do you folks think that the three Proud Boys were under-sentenced, and what rationale do you think the judge would have had for sentences less than requested by the prosecutors?
Absent a pardon, he can only get 15% off for “good time.” Showing remorse (or anything else) is not necessary. All he has to do is behave in prison.
I think the sentences were fine. I wouldn’t cry if they were longer, but I think the point was made for deterrent purposes.
The judge offered his rationale:
“Kelly said in both hearings that he was “not trying to minimize the violence” that happened that day, but that he had to compare the sentences of other Jan. 6 defendants in other cases to avoid large disparities.”
From Proud Boy to Cry Baby.