7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

There’d been a trial balloon a few weeks back that he wouldn’t pardon those actually convicted of violent crimes such as attacks on Capitol Police officers, but I never really expected he’d draw that distinction, the fucker.

Did he? He only pardoned the non violent offenders?

Doesn’t look that way.

This will cost him the Police vote.

And you know, if he had only pardoned those guilty of trespassing, it wouldnt have bothered me.

A little more clarification, that, yes, the pardons did include nearly all of those who were convicted of violent crimes (and the few who weren’t pardoned had their sentences commuted), from this Reuters article:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-preparing-issue-sweeping-pardons-defendants-charged-jan-6-attack-abc-news-2025-01-20/

What on Earth are you talking about?!

This is almost certainly wrong. The police will continue to love him, because he’ll gut any federal efforts to investigate state/local police practices. So they can keep hiding their dirty little secrets. To most cops these days (not all) any police/LEO that got hurt on 1/6 were traitors anyway.

As for those “just” guilty of trespassing, well, let me STRONGLY disagree. Trespassing may have technically been what was done, but it certainly wasn’t their intent if the were there. Sure, I may blame Trump more for goading the mob, but they have agency as well.

Yep. WE GOT HIM!

Agree. They where a totally out of control rioting mob. Those ‘trespassers’ where part of it, %100.

Now if it was just some random folks that entered a building that was not secure, not defended sure, they may have just be curious. Provided they didn’t have nefarious intent.

These assholes had a plan. It was a bad one, but it was a plan with the intended outcome of proventing the President elect from holding office. That’s serious shit.

No such thing will happen.

I read the following in the comments section of Paul Krugman’s Substack today. Highly suggest you getchyseff a free subscription immediately for some intelligent, insightful reading unconstrained by editors. He posts a few times per week.

Here’s the comment from a reader named Greg Florence (who also has a Substack).

“I think people need to write their Congresspeople to put pressure on Speaker Johnson to refuse any requests to allow January 6th attackers to come to the Capitol building as honored guests for the State of the Union address. I included something folks can send to their Congresspeople and Senators on my post. I have no hope that we can forestall it, but I see it as a real possibility and it troubles me greatly.”

(More detail at the link above next to Florence’s name.)

My bold.

Not only is this possible, but I can see trump awarding each and every one of them the presidential medal of freedom. Am I delusional?

This.

I think some part of me had been expecting the earth to open under the inauguration and swallow them all up. Nope. We ain’t helping the planet and she sure ain’t gonna help us.

Too late, even if it does.

And this is what he said he was going to do. Why didn’t it cost him their vote in November?

He pardoned rioters who attacked and caused police to die.

I did not say I would approve of it. I said- it wouldn’t have bothered me, I mean compared to all the other crap trump has just done, it would be a minor blip. Still wrong, but not as wrong as most of his recent actions.

IIRC he had said he wasnt going to pardon those convicted of violent crimes.

You may not have noticed but the man lies. He lies a lot. /s

You may not have noticed, but a lot of voters believe those lies. :innocent:

In what election?

Last fall. And then Vance floated the same idea but was shouted down.

You posted this yesterday.

What election are you talking about? I’m sorry but your mixing of tense and time makes it very difficult to understand you.

The 2026 elections, the candidates he backs will have problems with that. There no mixing of tense. He pardoned guys who killed cops. The Police really hate that.

You know, trump has won & lost other elections besides the ones he is personally running in. When a trump back candidate loses- trump loses.

If for example in 2026 the Dem retake the House- as some have predicted, and even retake the Senate- a bit of a long shot- trump will be hamstrung.

Well Trump isn’t running in 2026 for one, so this won’t cost him any votes, police or otherwise.

As for the candidates he backs, I will have to disagree.

The Police won’t agree with you either. They don’t hate what Trump did because they don’t think he pardoned any cop killers.

Police will overwhelmingly endorse and vote as Trump directs them to. It won’t even be close.