I haven’t found this on YT yet but I did find it another videos (via Twitter pages) at another site along with a transcript/description:
Well, nuts.
There’s an excellent new article in NY Times about Trump’s recent video release which includes these gems:
During the day, Mr. Trump watched the impeachment debate in the House at various points and told advisers he was furious with Mr. McConnell and felt blindsided by him. Yet his deeper anger was at the House minority leader, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, for publicly condemning him, people close to him said.
His relationship with his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, who encouraged him to believe conspiracy theories about widespread election fraud, has frayed, one adviser said. The president was offended by Mr. Giuliani’s request for $20,000 a day to represent him in the election fight, which Mr. Giuliani denied making but which was in writing, and told aides not to pay him at all, an adviser to Mr. Trump said, confirming a report by The Washington Post.
White House officials have started blocking Mr. Giuliani’s calls to the president, another adviser said.
The bolded part is my favorite. These guys lie like they breathe.
Bumpity Bump. There goes Rudy. “The wheels on the bus go round and round”
So, will Giuliani sue Trump? I would pay real money to watch Rudy cross-examine The Donald.
Here’s my theory of the Capitol insurrection. Today. Tomorrow, who knows.
There are two distinct groups involved, the Grift Trolls and the Crazies. And Trump, who has a special role that’s a little of both. And Rudy.
The Grift Trolls are Kayleigh, Don Jr., Kimberly G, Mark Meadows, most of the other STOP THE STEAL folks, the cast of underlings and consultants and lawyers underlying the scheme. Some of those folks are crazy as well, but that doesn’t include them in this group. Mostly they are just soulless craven brats who don’t know what it’s like to really believe in something. They were just making their money and trolling the libs. And they really need to look to see if anyone had an incentive ( like a client that was a competitor ) to damage Dominion.
Trump was the product as well as the salesman. They sold him as the second coming of Christ and the only thing saving them from the secular world of liberalism where AOC would burn down their house and call herself a man and make them believe her, or something. The crowd ate up everything they said and they just kept talking, Trump was high on the adulation, they were all high on the adulation, Trump said anything they could to keep them cheering, the perfect product that sells itself. They got more and more confabulous with the tales of liberal devastation, just so they could hear the crowds roar, see the money roll in.
Because they didn’t know what it felt like to believe, they failed to see the monster they were creating. I honestly believe we will find they arranged to let the crowd into the building, but all they expected was a Trump rally right outside of the Congressional chamber, a big old fuck you to both the Democrats and the Republicans that were trying to wind down the STOP THE STEAL stuff and wouldn’t help them continue it past Jan 6th.
So they arranged to let the mob in the building.
As to whether the grifters really thought they had a chance at changing the election results, I don’t know. I think Trump did. And every indication is that Rudy was intent on keeping Trump’s hope alive. He told him about teams of lawyers poring through the Constitution looking for loopholes, about new explosive information coming out of the state legislatures. And it’s pretty common knowledge Rudy is in deep with Russian Ukrainian grifters. Just saying.
They let the mob in the building, they didn’t count on the crazies, the crowd they whipped up, the various militias and Christian warriors,the brainwashed zombie army. I believe that a trained faction of the brainwashed zombie army had big plans. For real and serious. They were going to stop Joe Biden from being inaugurated by killing enough Democrats and weak Republicans to make it completely impossible to confirm the election. I believe they really intended to do this and I believe it will come out that there are some congresspersons among this group. And I think that’s what they are finding as they investigate. ETA - I don’t think the grifters coordinated with the crazies, but if they arranged to let them in the building they are still fucked.
This is going to mean that a whole bunch of grifting Republicans are finding themselves up to their eyeballs in an assassination plot. And all their money is suddenly real dirty. And there’s going to be a wave of extremist Republican terrorism perpetuated by guys in Trump trains that look a whole lot like ISIS caravans. It’s gonna be a hard time to be a moderate Republican.
TL/dr is a bunch of grifters were trying to troll the libs and bilk their base at the same time and thought they’d hit the jackpot - instead they turned half the Republican Party into a Christian ISIS and the rest of them will soon up to their necks in a mass assassination plot, it’s epic and we’ll probably get a Russian connection.
And I think that they, or at least a lot of not-totally-batshit-crazy ordinary Republicans, on some level were scared of the situation, and not unreasonably either.
So they deflected their fear onto some subset of the standard list of anti-liberal alarmism “alternative facts”, as in, the liberals are all MARXISTS and SOCIALISTS, and they’re going to TAKE YOUR GUNS, and they’re going to TAKE YOUR HOUSE AWAY FROM YOU, and they’re going to TAKE YOUR COUNTRY AWAY FROM YOU with all their GAY MUSLIM TRANSGENDER ABORTIONS and their COVID HOAX and their CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX and their MIND-CONTROL NANOCHIP “VACCINE” INJECTIONS and ELECTION FRAUD and COMMUNIST RIOTING, so that soon you WON’T BE ALLOWED TO GO TO CHURCH OR DISPLAY THE FLAG and AMERICA WILL HAVE PERISHED.
Which is made-up bullshit, and on some level a lot of them may even know it’s bullshit, but they hang onto it anyway even though it makes them feel anxious and paranoid, because it feels safer than confronting the real problem.
Many Republicans these days are kind of in the position of an abused wife nervously trying to reassure herself that the only reason her husband is being so scary is that other people are somehow being so horrible to him. “Well of course he yells and says crazy things and waves the gun around frighteningly, because he’s just under so much stress, it’s so unfair! He’s out there screaming at the neighbors and threatening to kill them because they’re such evil, dangerous people! He’s just trying to protect us, because if he didn’t those horrible neighbors would probably sneak in and murder us all in our beds! They’re making him be this way, it’s their fault!”
Yeah, that’s what you tell yourself when you’re terrified to confront the fact that the neighbors are actually ordinary, reasonable, decently-behaved people (although you might reasonably disagree with them about some things), and the guy you’re in bed with is a delusional violent loon.
And if he ever gets the idea that you might be “siding with the neighbors against him”… watch out.
January 6 was only a beginning.
Correct.
He does support gun control. Always has.
he actually banned more guns than Obama did. He banned the Bump Stocks.
It’s interesting - I’ve been following this on mainstream media (mostly BBC) and until just now, I had not read or seen the whole transcript of the speech. The way it has been presented in excerpts gave me a much weaker impression of incitement than when I read the whole thing.
When you only look at excerpts presented out of context, you tend to concede that he did say something about ‘peacefully and patriotically’ making your voices heard.
Except that was right at the start of the speech - followed by an hour of counterfactual bloviating, stoking the crowd the with same false claims and outright lies they have been loving to hear and believe, and finishing his speech with:
Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.
and
So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So yeah, when you look at bits of the speech, it’s easy to get the impression that it was just a speech and that it was the crowd’s idea to riot. When you read the whole thing, the incitement is really hard to ignore.
Well said.
Modnote: Please don’t do this without labeling the photoshopped humor picture as humor, a joke, or some such. Not in P&E and not in GD.
Sure, big picture. But they’re in effect saying Republicans committed sedition and instigated an armed assault on the Capitol, so both parties are bad. So fuck that.
I found that as soon as I started to view the past four years through a domestic violence / psychological abuse paradigm, everything fit.
Relentless psychological abuse can be as bad or worse than physical abuse, and harder to address legally. Once during the time it was happening to me, I tried to provoke my abuser into a physical attack so I could get some legal recourse. It didn’t work.
Also, if you actually see the thing, it really appeared to have been designed for maximum emotional impact. Trump was almost exactly an hour late – the speech was supposed to start at 11:00, and didn’t actually start until noon. In the meantime, and long before 11:00, they played loud and lively rock music, and as anticipation built and built, Trump finally pranced on stage looking like a cross between a rock superstar and a Hitler-like demagogue, framed by a row of flags and the iconic image of the White House in the background.
So as much as the words of the speech were clearly an incitement to violence, the setting created a sort of emotional mystique that amplified their effect even more. Hitler created the same effects with massive symbols of pomp and circumstance surrounding the large crowds, minus the rock music.
In the classic “The World at War” WWII BBC documentary, it was pointed out that even that bit about being late was also the usual for Hitler at big events.
He did it to increase the suspense. Makes the crowd more involved when feeling the relief for seeing their idol appear after waiting for that long.
It also gives the impression that they are really busy (working hard) on other important stuff.
Yeah, we’re being naive and wishful if we think this is over. Trump and the GOP gave these people a platform they’re not going to just give up.
There are two facets of this “movement” (if we can call it that): there’s the finance/political side and the militarist side. The militarists are what you saw on January 6th and what we’ve seen in state capitols, and we’ll probably see them again.
There’s also the financial side, the dark money aspect of this (i.e. the Mercers and their ilk). It’ll be interesting to see if any of these dark money individuals and political hatchet men (like Roger Stone) are implicated in any way.
But this is not going away; they’ve suffered a setback because of all the blow back in the form of negative attention they’re now getting. But they will regroup, and in some ways, the conditions could be even more favorable for them a few months to a year from now, with a dark economy, pandemic, and all.
There is hope, though. The fact that 80 million voted for Biden and quite honestly, even though they voted for Trump, the fact that 75 more million still voted - that’s good. The fact that the Dems won in Georgia - good. The fact that corporate big shots are being forced to reckon with their role in enabling this - that is also good. A lot more work to be done, but there is some good coming out of this.
Damn. I thought after listening to dozens of Republicans in Congress yesterday try to play the Jose Ferrer part in The Caine Mutiny, we could finally watch the credits role.