Probably. On another board, one that leans much more to the right than this one, this story has also been reported; and the sentiment there is that “Communists urge children to report their parents! This is just the beginning of what we’ll see under a socialist-communist Democratic government!”
Gee, I remember back nearly twenty years ago when right-wingers in general were strongly in favor of encouraging moderate and law-abiding people report any family members whom they suspected of violent extremism and terrorist activity to law enforcement.
I wonder what’s changed their minds? …
And from your link:
Gionet entered various offices and when told by law enforcement officers to move, identified himself as a member of the media.
This is surely going to be a common defense strategy.
This is an interesting argument. Should we call it the reverse slippery slope argument or something?
The syllogism is something like - “My party cannot be lost to radical extremists today, because I can find someone who falsely claimed that they were already lost to radical extremists at a point in the past when they clearly were not.”
Whatever you call it, I think it’s a logical fallacy. Maybe you want call what the likes of @asahi were saying 20 years hysterical rather than prescient, but it’s not evidence that things are still recoverable today.
At least the 4th Democratic Congressperson to get Covid from Republicans not wearing masks during the riot. Democratic representative Lou Correa
Misinformation declined dramatically (73%) after Trump banned from Twitter and other social media. Imagine if the social media companies had done this before. Would the riots have happened?
Manchin says that the Senate should consider removing Hawley and Cruz under the 14th amendment.
The ship must be sinking. Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany and HHS Secretary Alex Azar leave early. Azar leaves on news that there’s no vaccine reserve as they promised.
Trump leaving ashes in his wake.
Trump blows up the Arizona GOP on his way out
Trump’s parting gift to federal workers: Thinner paychecks [promised tax cut was a loan that had to be repaid]
Trump Asks Appeals Court to Let Him Dodge Rape Accuser Suit
Trump gets to take the nuclear football with him?!
Has anyone asked Azar if he personally has had his second dose? Under the circumstances, and since he has resigned and is clearly no longer essential to continuity of government, the correct thing would be for him to forego it in favor of people who are a higher priority.
I imagine it will be about as useful as a box of rocks after the administrative handover.
He should not!
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/11/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-richard-nixon-215478
The scene from the White House south lawn on August 9, 1974, is vivid in the nation’s memory. That morning, President Richard Nixon famously boarded Marine One for the final time, put on a wide grin and fired off a final double-V to the assembled crowd.
But one of the most interesting aspects of that day is what didn’t happen on the south lawn: Even though Nixon had more than two hours left in his tenure, the most critical tool of the modern presidency had already been taken away from him. He never noticed it, but the nuclear “football” didn’t travel with him as he boarded the helicopter, and later, Air Force One for his flight back to California.
In a democratic country without hereditary power, royal crowns or bejeweled thrones, the nuclear football is in some ways the only physical manifestation of our nation’s head of state.
Yet, on that August day, it had been quietly removed from Nixon’s hands—remaining behind at the White House with the incoming commander-in-chief, Gerald Ford.
Moreover, Defense Secretary James Schlesinger recalled years later that in the final days of the Nixon presidency he had issued an unprecedented set of orders: If the president gave any nuclear launch order, military commanders should check with either him or Secretary of State Henry Kissinger before executing them. Schlesinger feared that the president, who seemed depressed and was drinking heavily, might order Armageddon. Nixon himself had stoked official fears during a meeting with congressmen during which he reportedly said, “I can go in my office and pick up a telephone, and in 25 minutes, millions of people will be dead.” Senator Alan Cranston had phoned Schlesinger, warning about “the need for keeping a berserk president from plunging us into a holocaust.”
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My bold.
Frankly, I think Nixon was saner than trump.
I wouldn’t worry about it. The “football” hasn’t held anything except a couple of expired Arby’s coupons in years. 3 years 361 days, to be precise.
Here’s a pretty good 3.5 minute recap of the lead-up to the breaches.
My understanding is that there will be another nuclear football for Biden, so no need to wait for Trump’s (probably COVID-infested) one to come back from Florida. And the nuclear codes held by Trump will become useless after noon on the 20th.
(Of course, in practical terms, the nuclear codes are useless already, since the senior chain of command wouldn’t listen to the raving idiot at this point.)
Seems like they don’t want to muddy their prosecutions with allegations that will be too hard to prove.
No, no, and no. You cannot support Trump and be a normal and/or good person. And she can stop playing the martyr; she did this to herself and I have no sympathy for how badly her world was turned upside down.
“Hang Mike Pence!” isn’t enough?
It would irresponsible for prosecutors to make bold claims about attempted assassinations without evidence of intent. Wire ties, though definitely raising all kinds of hair on the backs of necks, isn’t evidence of an attempted or planned assassination.
People shouted all kinds of shit, including wanting to kill an officer with his own gun, which ultimately didn’t happen.
We may well discover enough evidence to show a conspiracy to commit an assassination, but it’s critical to get the evidence in hand first before blurting it out to media. Otherwise, you play right into the hands of the alt-right conspiracy theorists.
I see what you did there!
(Moderating)
Maybe you forgot, but you aren’t in the Pit. Stow the personal shots.
RickJay
Moderator
No one’s going to be caught off-guard this time, right?
The far-right extremists who overran the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 are far from done—but it’s also far from clear where they plan to strike next. That’s because the organizers of the various pro-Trump factions behind last week’s insurrection can’t agree on whether to hold a fresh round of protests in state capitals around the nation, or to focus their fire on Washington, D.C., for militia-based protests beginning Sunday and perhaps extending into Inauguration Day on Wednesday.
On the one hand, a number of far-right factions have been assiduously organizing armed protests—and possible statehouse invasions—at the Capitols of all 50 states, many of which appear to be ill-prepared for the onslaught. Yet a number of factions are urging people to ignore those protests—even conspiratorially smearing them as “false flags”—and instead concentrate their efforts on creating a massive turnout for Sunday’s planned “Million Militia March” in D.C.
The plans for a “Round 2” began appearing in posts within hours of the initial Capitol siege on Jan. 6. About a day later, the first announcement appeared on the currently-defunct right-wing social-media site Parler, from an account associated with the authoritarian QAnon cult, announcing a “Million Militia March” for Jan. 17.
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