anna morgan-lloyd will be sentenced today. she has plead guilty to a single misdemeanor charge of “parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a capitol building”. this charge has a maximum penalty of 6 month imprisonment.
the prosecution is requesting 3 years probation, 40 hours of community service, and 500 dollars.
Young agreed to cooperate with federal investigators and cut a deal to plead guilty to two felony counts – conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding. He could face a likely sentence of more than five years in prison, according to estimates read at his plea hearing on Wednesday.
Cooperation so he only gets 5 years in prison. I’m guessing the rest of the Oath Keeper traitors are now screwed.
He should also be required to not tell anyone he took the deal to avoid being railroaded by big government. Nor make any statements to the media other than he is guilty as charged.
You know, I looked that record up, and it looks like it was released in 2008, so that couldn’t have been the one. I thought it was, but this would have been like 1985 or so…
(ETA: Further research. OK, it was that one… Classics Live and Classics Live II are a set of albums by American rock band Aerosmith, released in 1986 and 1987, respectively. Together, they constitute the band’s second live offering, after Live! Bootleg . Classics Live I has gone platinum while Classics Live II has gone gold."
I wouldn’t charge the morons who stormed the capitol with sedition, either. I’d save those charges – plus treason – for the GOP leaders who encouraged and enabled the attack.
I dunno. The charge seems almost tailor-made for those who actually stormed the Capitol. Since there’s probable cause for the charge, if it were up to me, I’d charge just about all of 'em with this and then be willing to drop it as a bargaining chip during plea negotiations with the lesser wrongdoers: Seditious conspiracy - Wikipedia
Legally, yes. But I’m thinking about the optics. Charging Joe Nobody with sedition would look like punching down. Save the heavy stuff for Trump, Giuliani, etc., and let them defend themselves against charges that they conspired to commit treason against the USA.
Also, it’s a heavy burden of proof to achieve. Trespass is easy - they just have to have been caught inside the building - and destruction and theft for the worst offenders. But sedition likely requires clear intent and documentation thereof.
So, if it goes to trial, you’ve given the jury something to acquit the defendant on, if they think they need to, while convicting them on the other charges. But I suspect, given the spadework the FBI is doing with all these idjits’ emails, texts and social-media posts, there will be plenty of evidence as to the rioters’ intent, and seditious conspiracy will not be all that hard to prove in many if not all such cases.
The article @Akaj just posted (thanks, that was interesting) says they are bringing conspiracy charges, though; which I would think would also require clear intent and documentation.
It may be more that proof of conspiracy to trespass, and/or proof of conspiracy to obstruct the count, are a lot more clearcut to describe. The defendents are likely to claim that they weren’t trying to overthrow the legitimate government but to prevent its being overthrown. Nonsense, of course; but if a jury member believes it, there wouldn’t be a conviction for sedition. And I’m not sure there would be even if a jury member believes that the defendents believe it – which some of them probably do.
I’m also thinking, or at least hoping, that the DOJ knows what to charge them with better than I do.