A great steaming turd, be it gift wrapped and tied with a bow, is still a great steaming turd. Regardless of which forum or which thread in a forum it is gifted, it remains a great steaming turd.
Your whining about whether one thread or another should be the proper place for you to deliver your great steaming turd misses the entire point – don’t wander about like a virtual sphincter laying great steaming turds.
Should I unprovokedly fire my flamethrower at you when I’m in your house, or should I wait until you’re out on your lawn? Come on, people, this is the important question!
No, I’m asking a simple question. I haven’t insulted anybody, flung any scat around, or done anything but explain my position and try to get an answer to the question, since I posted the three lines that everybody thinks were so awful many hours ago. I understand that you would prefer I didn’t post at all. If that is not an option, would you rather I start whole new threads for the turds or drop them in the original thread? If you just can’t choose, there’s no need to keep repeating yourself. We get that you think it’s shitty to post unpopular views in a Pit-like way in the Pit.
The first part is 100% correct and tomndebb effectively said as much twice.
The second part is not correct. It has not changed. I don’t think anyone is saying it has changed in this thread.
Even disagreeing with that view you had in the first thread, if you felt the need to post what you did, it was better to do it in the first thread and not start the second.
Did that answer your question? I already said in my first post I thought **jayjay **was wrong about the seperate thread part.
Please re-read post #7 and answer my question: What is your purpose?
If your purpose is to discuss an issue that the thread made you think of (say for instance, that not everyone gets a hunky-dory Xmas), a new thread would have been the right way to go.
If your purpose is to have an unpopular opinion (say for instance, quit yer bitchin’ it coulda been worse and I have no more to say on the subject), the original thread is where that post can go.
Either way you go, you might have to deal with flaming because it’s generally considered rude to tell someone to quit their bitching when they have a real complaint. Even if it’s “okay” or “allowed” or “permitted” or “this is the place for flaming”, it’s still RUDE to tell someone to quit their bitching cuz they don’t have it so bad. You take your chances stepping into any conversation. Dopers are a complex and contradictory group, like any group and you can’t always predict the response. So you will just have to roll with it, baby.
And were tellling you this time you were rude. And the question can’t really be taken out of context of the original thread because, again, Dopers are complex and contradictory. A different thread may have turned out completely differently. Or if you had made an actual point instead of appearing to attack poor HD.
On preview it appears a bunch of posts have appeared but I’m posting this anyway. So there!
See? “Whaaaaaaa! I’m a martyr.”
I don’t think Best Pit Practices demand (or even encourage) starting a different Pit thread when you find yourself in opposition to what appears to be the consensus opinion. But let’s look at a couple of caveats to that.
If you want to register your opinion that the OP of the thread has posted ill-advisedly, and you already recognize that you’re going to be in a vast minority, you should also be able to predict that those who are already investing sympathy with the OP are likely to react negatively, and perhaps even fiercely at you. Go ahead and post it in the original Pit thread, but you will get sniped at for threadshitting. If you insist on arguing that point, you will have made the thread about YOU, and then you’ll legitimately be labeled a threadshitting attention whore.
If you DO open a new thread to complain about it, the worst reaction you’re likely to get will probably be bemused annoyance.
I DO think that posting a negative response to a Pit thread is rude, in absolute terms, but I also think that in certain circumstances, or with sufficient provocation, it can be acceptable, and even therapeutic.
I hope I have given a legitimate answer to your question, Ensign Edison.
That was really good, CaerieD. Now do the Timbertoes! 
It was my understanding that there are warnings and rules about posting for support in the Pit precisely because it’s not “unprovoked” if somebody doesn’t respond supportively. By posting in the Pit, you’re hanging a “flamethrowers okay” sign on your house. Unless you’re suggesting that flames which don’t come from pile-ons (which seems to be tom’s position, it’s okay as long as it’s a pile-on) shouldn’t be posted in the Pit, then I think it’s valid to ask about the most appropriate place to post them. I understand that you think I am an asshole and shouldn’t post at all.
No, I’m a guy who wants you to answer a simple question. Do you think it’s okay to flame someone for the content of their thread within the thread if the thread is generally supportive of that person, or should I start a new thread?
And you are too thick to understand the answer. You wouldn’t happen to be about 35 or so years old, would you?
You skipped over the post where I expressly answered that–presumably because you enjoy being a martyr.
Since you keep acting as though no one has answered this question, and yet many people have, I’ll bold it: I don’t think you needed to start a new thread. You are welcome to flame away on topic in the existing thread. You’re welcome to say “fuck you” to the OP. And all of us are welcome to say “fuck you” right back.
The creation of another thread isn’t the issue the majority of people here have with you. All jayjay’s post did was create a nice little false issue for you to work yourself up about, so that you can sidestep every time somebody tells you that you were a dick.
The majority of people on here never really cared about the creation of another thread or etiquette, as far as I can tell.
On preview: kaylasdad99, I think they might be best suited for MPSIMS. I’m not sure how to work in an adequate amount of swearing into the Timbertoes for the Pit. 
The point is that jayjay felt you weren’t responding to the OP; you were making your own complain which was only marginally relevant to the OP and hurtful as well.
If what you were trying to say was “My Christmas/some people’s Christmas sucks because there’s no food and money and family,” that should have been in its own thread because it is not a response to the OP.
Thank you for taking my question seriously. I appreciate it. And thanks to What Exit and kaylasdad as well.
My purpose was to express my opinion about the OP same as others had done, not to start a whole new discussion about it, no. I accept that you and many others here find my original opinion itself rude, and that you would prefer I had not expressed it at all. I think my question does stand on its own without that context, however, simply by acknowledging that “don’t post it anywhere at all” is a third option I’m choosing not to take. The question becomes, assuming you do have to deal with reading an opinion you think is rude in the Pit, what’s the least assholish way procedurally to go about being an asshole.
Your response was definitely helpful and again I appreciate that you took the time to consider the question instead of just insulting me.
But he and many others have answered that. If you wanted the answers with negative commentary you should have started this in either IMHO or ATMB. If you wanted it **without **unrequested opinions and suggestions, well you came to the wrong board.
Most people I’ve repeated the question to had not answered, and I’ve thanked those that have when I saw. I haven’t “sidestepped” the issue that people think I was a dick. I have repeatedly, in almost every post for a while now, acknowledged that they think I was a dick. How is “I hear that you think I was an asshole and should not have posted it anywhere at all” sidestepping in any way?
You mean, here in this thread which I started specifically to ask this question about the creation of a new thread? Are you saying that everyone has deliberately threadshit and hijacked this because they didn’t care about it? Do you think that was wrong or rude of them?
Yes, I apologize for mistakenly thinking he was one of the many who have refused to answer it. I misread the names and confused him with someone else. Sorry about that, Fenris.
AKA “Whaaah! I’m a martyr!” again.
Well, fucknut*, if you didn’t always make me think so hard, this Board won’t be much fun, would it? It was completely appropriate for you to post your unpopular opinion in that thread. It’s just that several Dopers think you were an ass for doing so this time. And what’s extra funny is that next week you may very well have gotten different responses because us Dopers are such a fickle lot.
Happy Holidays!
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No. Let me repeat myself more clearly: I don’t believe it’s necessary to start a new thread every time you want to flame the OP of a Pit thread. I assume the majority of Pit posters feel similarly, considering how often Pittings meander.
Thus, if we want to insult you and mock you for your OP, we’ll do it right here. If you want to tell HD to fuck off for his OP, you can do it in that other thread. That is, IME, how the Pit works. In essence, I agree with you about Pit etiquette. This wasn’t a matter of etiquette at all, as far as I’m concerned; I just thought you were a dickhead. I can disagree with what you posted without thinking you should have started a new thread for it.