And yet, said “nice” guys, who are probably only average looking, drool after gorgeous bitches rather than looking for a nice, average looking girl who he can actually have a lasting relationship with.
That’s not “nice” either, that’s thinking with your dick.
Hey! Stop fighting!
This isn’t helping the situation.
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Crazy old maid with 100 cats? Well, I only have 4, but close enough. 
DB, I’m detecting a strong tendency for the teapot to call the kettle black here. Your posts are as bitter as ours, and at least as rude.
We come across as bitter and frustrated because we do everything that nice guys should in order to find love, and we get ignored instead. Damn right we’re bitter. That’s the aftermath. When we’re actually trying to earn a woman’s affections, we’re our usual nice selves. It gets us nowhere. then we feel bitter and depressed, we withdraw for a while, we get over it, and the cycle starts again.
And don’t talk to us about drooling over the “gorgeous bitches” and ignoring the average-looking women. The two most important relationships of my life were with women who wouldn’t get a second glance if looks were all that mattered. They were beautiful to me, because we had love.
Forgive us for venting. Maybe when women actually seek mates based on the qualities they claim they want, and men are allowed to express their feelings without taking shit for it, we won’t need to be this way anymore.
–Da Cap’n
“Playin’ solitaire 'til dawn
With a deck of fifty-one.”
Well, Michelle, I’d submit a resume, but, there’s a few snags. One, I’ll wager you’re a prohibitive distance away from me. Two, I don’t have a picture, not that that’s exactly a bad thing (to quote South Park: “Your face looks like someone tried to put out a forest fire with a screwdriver, Ugly Bob!” Well, maybe not that bad…) Three, I’m a law student living on loans, so I’m poor as a homeless churchmouse.
And four, I’m currently trying to convince another girl I met on the Net that I’m a worthwhile guy. Wouldn’t be fair to her. Although, after last night, I’m not sure what’ll happen next, so maybe I should leave my options open…
I’m tired of hearing how women always go after the assholes.
For the record, I have never dated an asshole.
(This is not counting the times that I went to a club and made out with some random guy, etc. That’s not dating. I mean actual boyfriends.)
I have had, say, 9 serious boyfriends (including my fiancé) since I was 14. All of them were sweet, loving guys. And all of them were bitter about how women never really want a nice guy.
Well, I do. I’m marrying one. So, get over it.
Cessandra
Why sex is better than religion: You can scream “Oh, God” during sex, but just trying saying “Oh, f***” in church!
Nice Guys… Bitter and Sweet, we got the taste you want.
If I’m the only applicant, do I get the job?
If you’d read what I was responding to when I said that, you’ll see that I was justified in my response. I wasn’t trying to generalize that particular reply to everyone, although it’s quite a prevalent problem. Just as many women go after a guy with a big wallet over a guy with a big heart, men go after pretty bitches with big boobs. And trust me, I know this, because I was that bitch at one point.
If women screw you over consistently, you might want to observe patterns in the women you choose and try to change what you go after. But don’t whine about how all women go for assholes over nice guys. The moment I actually find a truly nice guy is the moment I settle down. Problem is, they usually start out nice and then slowly show their true colors. 
Cessandra:
I just love the way you ‘talk.’ You’ve gotta sound like a ‘valley girl.’ Well, cool for you in your relationships. I’m pleased that you’ve managed to discover nice guys. Not all of us get screwed over – just the majority. I’m absolutely sure that there are ‘nice girls’ out there who can say exactly the same things about guys.
Besides, honey, at your age everything is cool. It will remain that way up through your 20’s and will probably start to change around 29. (The Hippies of the 60s used to say never trust anyone over 30 and I wondered why - I was in my 20s. Then I went crashing through 30 and found out why. One’s attitude and outlook change. I think they call it maturity.) You’re sweet. Stay that way.
Michelle:
I have 2 cats. A crusty old semi-Siamese and a big black and white tom. I love them dearly. I could not do what you do. I worked in the medical and mental health fields but balked at working for a vet. Humans understand why they hurt but animals don’t and I just couldn’t take it. Especially when it came to having to put them to sleep. Especially small animals, like cats and small dogs. Even the big, savage looking dogs get this ‘look’ on their face when they’re hurt and scared in a vets office that just gets to me. Plus, I’ve seen people cry over their sick loved ones but I was more affected by the sight of this one big, rawboned, redneck old guy in the lobby of an emergency vets office. At his feet was a semiconscious German Shepherd and he was crouched over him, gently petting the pooch with his big, gnarled and work hardened hands and the look on his face and the very set of his muscles displayed so much quiet grief that I’ve never forgotten it. I think he would have rather taken a pistol shot in the gut himself than have anything happen to his cherished pet.
Older picture huh? You look like they type of lady I’d chase after because you’re CUTE. I much prefer cute over gorgeous – or what the standard is for gorgeous these days. Believe it or not, I usually am attracted by a woman’s face at first.
Now, who else? Mmmmm! Oh, yeah! MC:
Older guys will go for younger women for many reasons, including sex, but not always. Younger women do not have that ‘look’ in their eyes that older women get that indicates that they’ve seen it all before and nothing surprises them anymore. Younger women tend to smile more and be happier with less sarcasm and their are more active. An older man enjoys their activity and their pleasant attitudes. A younger woman can bring an older man out of his shell and add years to his life.
In some nations, women prefer older men because of their wisdom and because they tend to be less hot headed as younger men are. An older man enjoys the smoothness of a younger woman’s skin more because she still takes time to look good and keep herself up. (Man! I used to work for some pretty wealthy people and with all of the money these bugger had, the wife almost ALWAYS looked like a sourpuss, had never heard of plastic surgery or revitalizing treatments! Yet most of the guys, though up in age, looked pretty good! I mean, these women would show up at ‘the CLUB’ with bluish hair, mannish faces, wrinkles down to their knees wearing about $2000 in clothing, and $4000 in jewels but 10 cents worth of lipstick.)
A man once told me that older men are ‘good’ until the day they die, but sex stops when the ‘old lady’ decides it’s over. Plus, a man finds it harder to get turned on by a woman who had begun to look like a guy!
That’s why I have always been a big fan of women wearing makeup. The stuff actually does keep them young looking. (I’ve had over 30 years of observation to notice that.)
Now, there are many married couples who are perfectly happy with aging together and many guys who prefer women more along their own age. I’m not saying that my statement was for all men.
OK. This post is long enough.
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”
Great. I’m a sixteen-year-old valley girl. I feel subtly insulted.
Cessandra
Why sex is better than religion: You can scream “Oh, God” during sex, but just trying saying “Oh, f***” in church!
I thought “Valley Girls” became extinct a decade ago.
Well, Funnee, if others don’t reply soon, you may get the job position after all.
Pathetic.
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The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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Hang in there Michelle, put a sign in the window. You never know when you’ll get a walk in that will sweep you off your feet.
-Paul
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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.