I was thinking on this yesterday. I think what a slut is(my book report:What a Slut Is!) I think maybe a slut is someone who has sex with many,many different guys;also having a bunch of children out of wedlock doesn’t hurt either. A friend of mine said she slept with everyone in town(poor self esteem) and had 3 kids. 3 guys is not alot. I’ve been with 5. only.
Boris B wrote, re: the link between Cervical Cancer and promiscuity:
The page you pointed to lists among the things linked with higher risk of cervical cancer:
- Having a history of the sexually transmitted human papilloma virus (HPV).
- Having had frequent sexual intercourse before age 18
- Having multiple sex partners. The greater the number of partners, the greater the risk.
- Having sex partners who:
* Began having sexual intercourse at a young age
* Have had many sexual partners
* Were previously sexually active with a women who had cervical cancer - Having had a sex partner with HPV
If promiscuous partners, or partners exposed to HPV, are as much of a risk as being promiscuous yourself, then that implies that the promiscuity itself isn’t the causative factor – it’s just that being promiscuous increases your chances of picking up a “hidden” HPV infection.
Unfortunately, HPV is one of those ornery critters you can pick up even if you use latex. Fortunately, the kinds of HPV infections you can pick up with latex are only the “external” kind that cause genital warts, and not usually the kind that attack the cervix.
Quick-N-Dirty Aviation: Trading altitude for airspeed since 1992.
Lemme rephrase that: The kinds of HPV infections you can pick up with latex if the latex works are only the external kind.
Went home with a different guy every night for six months, but only slept with three?
Well, you were going to be labeled either a prick tease, a slut, or both. Sadly, most people make their judgements on appearances.
But to answer the question on slutiness, it is certainly your choice on how you conduct yourself. But there are societal mores. If you break them, you will pay some price.
You can argue all day long that wearing deodorant is a modern day unnatural practice perpetrated by the fashion nazis, but the truth is, if you don’t wear it people will make judgements about you. Neither Congress nor Greenpeace can change what is considered to be socially acceptible. And no amount of blaming “the man” is going to make your life any easier.
Most guys do not want to marry a woman who has slept with everyone in town. Blame society if you like like, but you knew the rules and chose to break them. Accept the consequences or reject societal norms and hunker down.
I say Hurray for the sluts!
I’ve yet to meet a nymphomaniac I don’t like.
Magnificent to behold - Greatly to be praised.
Yeah, I sleep around, when I can get it. I regard it as repayment for having no social life between ages 6 and 15. I will say in my defense, that I can remember the names of all the guys I slept with.
James, Ste, Tom, Robert, Steve, Matt, Karim, Serge, Steve (a different one), Chris, Steve (a third one), Eric, Wayne, Bruno, Didier.
So how many people can make that claim? Especially at that rate (15 people over the past two years)?
Fifteen in two years? Yowza!
Um, as an aside, matt – the male homosexual community in general has a stereotype of being rather promiscuous. Is … um … is that why the term “gay” came to mean homosexual, 'cause homosexual men seem to be able to get laid a lot more often?
Nothing wrong with anyone enjoying sex. No matter if its for fun, profit or reproduction. As long as it involves consenting adults go for it.
I make part of my living writing about not only romance but sex. When I posted in that thread that I’ve written for Hustler, I have. I used to write a lot of those “I’m just a college freshman and one night” letters some of you may have read in Penthouse forum. In case you didn’t know, most of those are written by freelance writers. I wrote as a man and as a woman. I wrote about things I thought about but have not done. But I can imagine it vividly enough to turn other people on.
I don’t particularly care for the word slut. Just by reading this thread everyone defines it differently. I’ve been called a slut. I’ve been called a prick tease too. Hasn’t made me change how I feel about sex. But, as I get older, I’ve noticed I like more romance in my sex. I don’t hop from bed to bed, not because of any social reasons, but because I don’t care for it any longer. It’s too dangerous and doesn’t leave me very satisfied. Having an orgasm is wonderful but having an orgasm with someone I really care about is better.
Best!
Byz
Well, since you asked …
Ya see, from a purely male perspective, a female person is about the coolest thing on the planet to be next to. They’re smart, cute, funny, interesting, sexy, and a naked woman in good shape regardless of body type is simply astounding. Preferably by moonlight, but I’d take it by lightning.
Ever caught a guy giving a paint job that final swipe and saying it was ‘tits’? He’s not kidding, it’s not a joke. That’s just as good as it gets in the bedrock of the male mind.
The problem most guys seem to have with a woman sleeping around is the idea that she would disrespect such a prize enough to give it away to every cigar smelling drunk who can wipe his chin and ask halfway nice. The male mind boggles. Does not compute. Even if the real story is she is horny and found a nice hunk to help her handle the situation, it clangs off most guy’s heads.
I’m calling it the male version of the Cinderella story and about as true to life. So you go girl. Er, I mean come. Oops, I mean…
Women, being much more sensible, observe the way men hang out in the woods & guzzle beer and don’t expect us to have any respect for ourselves.
That’s my theory and I’m sticking with it.
blink Is that too many or too few? (Remember, too, that I’m 18, probably as sexually attractive as I’ll ever be - which is kinda pathetic - and I have access to the Internet.
Actually, yes. But this was many years ago. Cecil deals with this topic in More Of, I think.
I’m reminded of the time that Harvey Milk, Goddess rest his soul, was having a debate with a senator. The senator said, “The average homosexual has had more than five hundred sexual partners!”
To which Harvey snickered, “I wish!”
If you live for today only, you may well regret it tomorrow. It’s hard to regain respect once you lose it. And, believe it or not, one day you may not be so proud to proclaim that you’re a “slut.”
Pregnancy and STD’s aside,you’re risking something very precious: your good name.
Be careful.
matt_mcl wrote:
Ah. Well, at age 18, that’s different. Teenagers are supposed to be promiscuous. It’s the only way to find out what kind of partner you’d eventually wanna settle down with.
Just be sure and listen to your mother when she tells you not to go out without your rubbers.
Just in case anyone cares- the technical term for the male equivelant of “nympho” is “satyrisist” ( may be spelled wrong ). Its as close As I know for a male specific term for “slut”
Cecil said it. I believe it. That settles it.
Satyr – from Greek mythology. A wanton woodland deity with a man’s body and goatlike legs. A lascivious man. Satyriasis – an abnormally strong, insatiable sexual drive in males. (Doubleday Dictionary, 1975)
Compared to:
Nymph – Greek and Roman mythology. A beautiful maiden inhabiting groves, forests, fountains, springs, mountains, etc. Any lovely young woman. The young of certain insects which undergo incomplete metamorphosis. Nymphomania – abnormal and ungovernable sexual desire in women. (Doubleday Dictionary, 1975)
Hmmm… is it just me or do you see some problems between the two definitions? The male is “insatiable” and the woman is “ungovernable”… both are “abnormal”… interesting food for thought, what ever YOUR definition is.
BTW I’m not jumping weirddave I’m just being one of those people who leapt to the dictionary for a comparison. I was intrigued by this and thought other posters might wonder too. (Hey, I did some work for you, what else do you want from me?)
Slut – A slatternly woman. A sexually promiscuous woman; whore. A female dog. (Doubleday Dictionary, 1975)
From another dictionary:
Slut – A slovenly woman; one of loose morals; a prostitute, hussy, or jade. Slut was applied to women long before the nineteenth century, when it sank for a while to the animal level, becoming a euphemism for a she-dog, or bitch. In very olden times, it was not restricted to women (men were said to be a slut as well). The feminine senses developed early, however, and they soon became dominant, which is usually what happens when “bad” words have both male and female meanings. Nowadays, only women are sluts or sluttish, the men having managed to get to escape the derogatory designation, just as they did with, for instance, GIRL, HARLOT and SHREW. See also DOG. (Wicked Words, 1989)
Slattern – An unkempt, slovenly woman; dating to the seventeenth century and apparently of basically onomatopoetic origin; stemming from the dialectical slatter, to spill, splash, slop or splatter. (Wicked Words, 1989)
Best!
Byz
Your Good Name???..What the hell?
I mean this is maybe a problem in High School, or if you live in a small town and never leave, but how the hell does your “good name” matter?..If you want to run out to a bar and pick up a different guy/girl every night, do you really care what the other drunks think? I wouldn’t recommend sleeping with most of your co-workers, but again national statistics show that most people change their jobs every 24 months or so anyway. Or if you’re going into politics later in life, but we’ve seen how much sexual indescretion matters nowadays. So who cares? Do you really care so much about what other people think that you’ll let them control your sex life?
Matt, while I can’t speak for the homosexual crowd, I’ve been with 35 and I’m 27. And I consider myself to have been fairly promiscuous(sp).
“Love thine enemies…it really pisses them off.”
-Anon
Cessandra wrote:
However, I was labeled a slut in high school before I even lost my virginity. Why? Because I wanted to date around and not get tied down too soon. (Ironic, isn’t it?)
No, not at all. I was very shy and terribly insecure ( yeah, I know, who isn’t) in high school. I had two dates and just because I didn’t *fall in love with these guys * gave me a bunch of weird looks from my (so called) girl friends who would date the same knuckle dragging treat you like shit boyfriend for three years. Not for me, thank you very much.
[lecture]When you learn to respect yourself, then others will respect you too. [/lecture]I’ve NEVER had someone-since these two- crap all over me. These two dipshits were the statues to the male pigeons of high school.
Growing up in a tight ( minded, assed, moraled) catholic community, sex education was not a priority and it was something that was never discussed.Not at home and at school it was a joke.
I was at home one night either Jr. Or Sr. year and my two best friends stopped by. This was a rarity since one was my best friend from school, the other after school & weekends. They didn’t even know each other. When they met while waiting for me to finish volleyball practice, I instantly became the invisible friend who would have been totally forgotten except I had a car.
I was cleaning my room listening to Dr. Ruth (she cracks me up still)on the radio and my friends not only turned off my radio stating it was smut, but started lecturing me on the evils of *that kind of thinking * WTF? I was trying to learn about something that no one else would tell me about.
I’m sure because I was the first to lose my virginity (ripe old age of 19 and with a guy I loved dearly and have no regrets.) that I was a slut in their eyes. Of course the fact that every time one of the dipshits was near the old flame and I, he would pull me close and whisper loudly, " Let’s go outback and fuck like rabbits." Irritating them was quite fun.
I really didn’t give a rat’s ass what their narrow minds thought and while part of me thought it would be prudent to just ignore their little minds ( because really, they could not help it as they had been programmed by their parents and their schooling to think like that. I too, was raised in the exact same way, but I have always colored outside the lines. Me, the rebel. Who knew?)
But being prudent with such lemon suckers is not for me, and I’ve learned to shoot from the hip. At that juncture of my life, I’d been with one man, but when I received the, “What will your future husband think of you having sex with someone else before you marry?” speech. I did not hold back.
“I don’t think he will complain at all when I’m giving him a blowjob.”
(To which our mutual boyfriends hers and Mine, and their friends ( cops and USMC’s) spit out their beers in hysterics.) This dipshit made herself look like the Church Lady before these guys and they LOVED me even more.Heh.
Funny thing is, shortly before dipshit cut me from her wedding party (long story, but not related to the status of my hymen) she was starting to get nervous about the big night and actually had the nerve to ASK me about sex and what it felt like. The LOOK I gave her would have brought down the SS Enterprise and I said, " Considering how you have treated me over the past few years regarding sex, I’ll be damned if I’m sharing anything with you."
[sarcasm] I wonder why she never calls…[/sarcasm]
I would like to apologize for the above diatribe with a politically incorrect joke:
(Ahem) What is the difference between a Prostitute, A Nympho and a Jewish Wife?
A prostitute says " That’s it."
A Nympho says, ’ That’s IT?!"
A Jewish wife says, " Beige, I think I paint the ceiling beige."
And what’s the difference between a slut and a bitch?
A slut will fuck everyone.
A bitch will fuck everyone… But you!
Yer pal,
Satan
So, I have been following the thread, and thought I would add some more of my observations. I’m not even sure why.
I like sluts. (Girl sluts, that is, and I suppose it is a prejudice that I don’t like boy sluts, but it is true, I don’t much care for them. Heterosexual, or homosexual, it’s the same. I like the girls, I don’t much like the boys.) It is an odd thing, though. The reason that it is odd is that I don’t have sex with them. I don’t even let them think that I might have, or want to have sex, if they seem to be thinking that way. That isn’t part of my relationship with women I meet now.
But I do like sluts. They seem to like me too. I know a lot of lesbians, and . . . well, a fairly large number of them are sluts. (OK, if you define slut so as not to include people who fall passionately in love for all eternity several times every year, they are faithful, if unlucky true lovers.) I used to live with a whole house full of sluts. There was a very uncommon sense of open knowledge of self in that house. Also it was a very compassionate, and loving place. Filled with kindness, and gentle patience. Some of the boyfriends and girlfriends were a tad bit on the obnoxious side though.
That is the one thing I tend to find lacking in my slut friends. They have this horrible taste in men (or women.) I don’t mean settling for some bozo because they don’t feel worthy of someone better, I mean actively going out and finding arrogant, stupid, selfish cowboys. I guess it’s a girl thing, I wouldn’t get it. I can recall half a dozen bright, kind and gentle men who got dropped like bad habits over a chance to get cozy with some knuckle draggin’ felon on work release.
But I do love ‘em. Go figure me, huh?
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Actually, I know women who were “sluts” in high school and are STILL regretting it. It’s a hard image to shun. It’s hard to be taken seriously in your professional life or personal life when everyone knows your seedy past. Cincinnati is not a small town, but I run into people I knew in high school a lot.
My point is that Cessandra may meet a man someday who she really cares about and who will be less than impressed with her past. Face it, most people want to marry someone who is respectable. Or maybe she’ll start having children and won’t want people to make jokes about who the father is.
So while she is proud of being a slut today, she may not be so proud of it later.