A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

Just a note for those who’ve never flown out of gate 35 at Washington National. It’s a ‘combination’ gate that uses buses to move folks to small commuter planes parked about 400 yards away from the terminal. At any one time there might be 4-5 flights either loading or gathering passengers there.

So all we can infer from the picture is that Mueller and Junior were flying commuter planes to some locations, but no way to determine where they were heading or if they were on the same flight.

And yes, I’ve flown out of Gate 35 more times than I care to remember…

Hmm. You make a good point. Maybe a half Windsor. Probably not the lazy knot people like me make, though (one loop around, pull the long end through, call it good enough). How do Marines tie theirs when they wear a dress uniform? That’s probably how Mueller wears his.

Well, he sure isn’t as lazy as I am: get a perfect Windsor once, then pull the tie off over your head… and keep it hanging in the closet for six months til the next wedding/funeral you need to choke yourself for.

Interesting–thanks.

Mueller isn’t one to fly off for frivolous reasons, one would assume. Though that doesn’t mean this is case-related (could be family-related, for instance).

As toxgoddess mentioned, fears for his safety do inevitably intrude. Seeing Don, Jr. in his “disguise,” I couldn’t help remembering that Kim Jong Un’s half-brother was murdered (via spray in his face) in an airport.

I’m not claiming that DJTJ would commit murder, but then again, who knows? He doesn’t appear to be the most ethically-advanced person on the planet…

Username checks out.

Wait. I always do a full Windsor. Is that sending some message that I don’t intend to send? (Sorry if this is slightly off topic.)

I generally stick to relatively narrow ties to keep the knot small, if that matters. But, a Windsor is nice and symmetrical!

The lack of a tie startled me, too. I’ve read that every day without fail, Mueller makes his bed and shaves. Figured the tie was just part of his disciplined routine, right before he eats his breakfast of thumb tacks and skim milk.

I did think he rocked Business Casual, though.

The Traitor Tot should stick to business suits. The t-shirt and trucker hat just made him look even dumber than he actually is. Didn’t think that was possible.

He’s appealing to the base.

I wonder where his Secret Service guards were, though.

Pip pip! Good show, that!

The fellow standing behind Mini-Dip was represented to be Secret Service. He glowered authentically, anyway.

I’m not even sure what the knot I use is called-- I think it’s the Half-Windsor. I’d been using it for years thinking it was just “the necktie knot”, before eventually learning how very many necktie knots there are.

I’d love to claim originality, but I shamelessly plagiarized it from a talk show (forget which). Seems the perfect moniker to me.

My first reaction to that photo was “Huh, Mueller’s tailing Don Jr., and doesn’t even have to hide or use a disguise, because Junior’s too oblivious to even notice he’s being followed.”

Out of idle curiosity, if Donald Jr. said or did something incriminating in the airport and Mueller observed it, could Mueller just make a note and enter it as evidence in the case? Is there some rule of evidence in play here? Can a prosecutor be a witness in his own case?

You mean something like if Mueller overheard Fredo talking in his Airport Voice on the phone: “Dad, DAD!! Calm down!! Yes, I know Michael Cohen just fucked us up the ass by revealing that I told you about that meeting with the Russians at Trump Tower on June 7, 2016, and that you approved and authorized it for June 9, 2016, and that the 11-minute phone call I made to a blocked number after the meeting was to you! But all we have to do is keep lying about it, ok?”

Based on past experience, here’s what I think might happen: Mueller could submit an affidavit attesting to what he overheard. It is also likely he could be called to testify. He is not the actual prosecuting attorney – he has an entire stable of those – so I think he could recuse his oversight for that particular part of the investigation, ask Rod Rosenstein to designate an alternate person, e.g. Andrew Weissmann, to oversee the Don Jr. prosecution and then offer testimony about what he overheard. I think he could still work in a managerial role.

He probably already has everything he needs to bury Uday and could choose to disregard what he overheard. Unless it happened to open an entirely new line of inquiry. And with this crowd, that’s always possible.

I just watched Anderson Cooper interviewing two of America’s most famous lawyers: the one hoping he and Stormy can bring down the Prez, and Trump ass-licker Dershowitz who first became famous for helping acquit O.J. Simpson. I don’t know much about Dershowitz — on the show he bragged that he taught legal ethics to Supreme Court Justices. Wikipedia tells me that he allegedly fucked one of Jeffrey Epstein’s underage sex slaves. Maybe that’s how he became chummy with Trump: Trump also allegedly attended some of Epstein’s rape parties.

The video was fun to watch; one has to admire the way they kept smiling while insulting each other. But it raised a question about legal ethics (if that’s not an oxymoron).

Avenatti and Cohen apparently chatted in a restaurant. Dershowitz said that Avenatti should be brought before an ethics committee for talking with a “counseled client” without counsel’s permission. Avenatti felt Dershowtiz was wrong. I suppose this might be the relevant rule:

Who’s right? Would Avenatti’s defense be that the conversation was about an unrelated subject? Or is Avenatti, self-appointed candidate for American hero, just another ignoramus or slimeball?

Could be the four-in-hand. That was the most popular knot at my Catholic high school where we had to wear a tie to school every day. If you just go over, around, and through the knot, that’s a four-in-hand. Half Windsor you go over, around, up through the loop, back around the front, over, up and pull through the knot. I’m sure that makes no sense, so half-windsor vs four-in-hand.

Dershowitz was famous before OJ for representing Claus von Bülow.

Academy award winning film Reversal of Fortune features both Ron Silver playing Dershowitz and a small cameo by Dershowitz himself playing a judge is based on the von Bülow case.

Unless Dershowitz knows that Avenatti was chatting about the subject of Cohen’s representation - and not, for example, the tiramisu - then Dershowitz is talking out his ass (and he’s way too good a lawyer not to know it).

OK, then, Four-in-Hand it is. Now I know (if I remember).