To continue the argument from this thread:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=67250&pagenumber=2
Alessan, I find your whole argument to be rather problematic. Let’s review:
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I accused you of having a double standard.
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You explained your earlier comments by saying that your post had been “a post I made two weeks before I left my country (and believe me, there was - and is - quite a lot of guilt involved that I was trying to suppress), a post in a thread involving Oldscratch and Danialinthewolvesden? Do you know that prior to joining the SDMB, I had never in my life had a serious converstion with someone who wasn’t Jewish? Do you know how much I’ve tried to adjust over the past 9 months?” You also accused me of having “bad form” for bringing up a post which you had made so long go.
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I retracted my original accusation and admitted that I hadn’t known the entire story of the difficulties you were experiencing at the time. I also explained why, not knowing your situation, it had seemed appropriate to quote your old post.
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For some reason, you refused to let the matter drop, and moreover tried to put the onus for continuing the argument on me by saying, “Well, Ben it seems as if you want to continue this debate, instead of simply apologizing and letting things be.” You also tried to smear me by spinning a rather paranoid scenario in which I’m only interested in “winning” arguments, and to that end I apparently am supposed to be keeping little dossiers of “careful notes” on people I don’t like. You also changed your argument. It’s no longer that you had spoken in haste at a time when you were experiencing emotional upset and personal difficulties. Instead, you changed to saying, “I don’t expect you to believe it, but at the time, I did not truly believe my remarks to be offensive.” At this point I felt that in order to defend myself, I had to bring up the much stronger comments for which you had earlier apologized. While one could believe that such comments were the result of emotional upset, no one could possibly believe that you didn’t think your remarks would be found offensive. If I might quote:
Let’s juxtapose this with your recent explanation of what you really meant by this: 'Instead of talking about murder, or rape (a subject you seem oddly obsessed with), the full meaning of this sentence - easily understandable within its context - is “I don’t trust you to protect me”. ’
Alessan, are we to believe that “we have… our own nukes. You could try killing us, but for every one you take, we’ll take ten. Jew Season is over,” is just a way of saying “I don’t trust you to protect me”? Are we to believe that you weren’t talking about us Gentiles "murder"ing Jews?
In all honesty, I must admit to one error. I had earlier said that Alessan was saying that it was “tough shit” that we wouldn’t be able to rape and kill Jews anymore. Upon re-reading his post, it’s clear that he meant that it’s tough shit if you don’t think that the Jews have a right to Palestine.
Alessan, I don’t see why you had to fan the flames out of control here. Yes, I agree to disagree with you when you value Jewish lives over Gentile ones. But I also admitted that I had been wrong in accusing you of having a double standard. And, believe it or not, I fully recognize that you regret your earlier comments. The problem is that you’re making personal attacks on me, and to that end you’re misrepresenting your comments and you keep squirming in your attempts to justify them.
Perhaps this has all been the result of a misunderstanding- it wouldn’t be the first time you said something you regretted. Do you recognize that I don’t keep a file of “careful notes” on you or anyone else? Do you recognize that my interpretation of your remarks about us “Gentile bastards” was very reasonable, and that your post wasn’t “easily understandable in its context” to mean “I don’t trust you to protect me”?
-Ben