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(Another possibility: the writers are very bad at keeping things straight.)
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Well, they did create GLEE so that’s a strong possibility.
With the maid we’ve already established that Ben “sees what he wants” to. Why wouldn’t the same go for hearing?
And even if not, the “parent” he spoke to on the phone was in the very first episode. He’d barely met Constance at that point, so there’s no reason for him to have connected what she sounded like on the phone - which generally does not sound identical to as in person - to having exchanged a few words with a neighbor.
Help me clear something up (not the is-Violet-a-ghost thing, though I still think so): the thing that attacked Violet’s druggie classmate in the basement in episode #1, that was the toddler son of the first owners that was kidnapped and dismembered, right?
I think that’s it, but it stretches credulity - Constance has a distinctive “Commonwealth of Va.” accent.
I don’t know how much Ben charges for an hour of therapy but I would guess in the hundreds, and most HMOs/PPOs list “shot to death by SWAT Team” as a pre-existing condition, so I wonder if Constance is paying for the sessions.
And then put back together with spare pig parts, yes.
I’m not totally sure Ben sees what he wants to, or at least not when put that starkly — rather — there are somehow two Moiras, one from the perspective of men and one from the perspective of women. (Wonder how she looks to gay men or lesbian women?) It’s not even just a matter of appearance, her tone and inflection and pose and mannerisms all noticeably change. Constance uses the house but doesn’t seem to have control over it, so I doubt she could “seem like” a different person.
You’re right that he likely didn’t know Constance well enough in the first episode to put two and two together, but surely he’s had some further contact with Tate’s purported mother since then? (Curiously, I don’t think they ever show Tate leaving … if Ben really thinks Tate’s been hanging around the house, hiding, hitting on his daughter, surely he’d want to see Tate off? In genuine motorized transportation? Alongside a discussion with Tate’s mother about boundaries?)
That makes very good sense to me. Nora said she couldn’t kill him, so I wonder what happened.
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Ben really thinks Tate’s been hanging around the house, hiding, hitting on his daughter, surely he’d want to see Tate off? In genuine motorized transportation? Alongside a discussion with Tate’s mother about boundaries?)
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He and Vivien definitely spoke to her about Addie’s problem with boundaries, and you’d think it would have come up then if they’d known.
Speaking of boundaries (of the more literal kind), can Tate and Moira only exist on the grounds of the house (except on Halloween)?
So, Tate knows there are ghosts in the house and he said to tell them to go away and they will, but he doesn’t realize he is one yet? If Violet told him to go away, would he?
Also, Vivian is pregnant with twins…One is a demon and the other a normal baby?
Does anyone else think that ultrasound tech who did the second ultrasound is fishy? I just got this weird vibe from her.
I think all men see the maid as young and hot and all women see her as old… (That figures since men seem to have those fantasies):smack:
Tate did go out for coffee with Ben.
Wasn’t that on Halloween? I can’t remember.
Maybe they’re going to go for a Carnivàle opposing avatars theme. Though I can’t see how without skipping ahead several years to see what becomes of them.
Yes he did, good call.
Yes, Tate did go out with Ben, but as noted, that was on Halloween.
Yeah, it was even specifically mentioned that he picked the date.
For some reason I assumed that Halloween roaming was only good at night. Apparently it’s an all day event.
Not that it matters for GLEE, but would a politician be within legal rights to out a student who
1- Is only rumored to be a lesbian*
2- Is not a public figure
3- Is a minor (I’m assuming she’s 17 or younger)
I’m guessing that a politician who did that would get his ass sued off for everything from invasion of privacy to malicious gossip to libel**.
I’m guessing that they’re setting this up to counterbalance Kurt, who had a positive coming-out experience, and show the flip side of gays whose parents do NOT accept them. Which could mean a job for A Martinez and Elizabeth Peña or other C-list Hispanic character actors to play her traditionalist parents with Shelley Morrison having “Special Guest Star” as the evil abuela. (Too bad Cesar Romero isn’t around to play her grandfather, but since he never came out himself he probably wouldn’t have anyway.)
*I know that Santana is a lesbian (or perhaps bi), but she’s never come out and all the politician’s niece could know is that Finn called her one and that she’s rumored to be dating Brittany, and the fact that both Santana and Brittany have gone with (lots of) men clouds the issue.
**Even is Santana is the lesbianest lesbian this side of Lesbianopolis he can’t prove anything.
Sorry- wrong thread.
Not necessarily - I figured I must have missed an episode. 
Constance sure has had bad luck with kids… I wonder what the fourth one is going to be like?
She killed Moira and Tate was killed before they moved out of the haunted house … then the burned guy smothered her son in 1994 in the attic of the new house, right?
There’s some questions about the timeline that don’t make sense to me, but maybe I haven’t paid attention.
Tate was killed in the house, indicating Constance was living there then. Constance’s other son was killed in the attic of the house by the burned guy, again indicating Constance was living there. This one implies she was living there after the burned guy fell in love with her.
But, when the burned guy’s wife set fire to herself and their girls, the burned guy’s family was living in the house and Constance was living in the neighboring house.
So, I’m confused as to the timeline of when (a) Constance lived in the house, (b) the burned guy’s family lived in the house, and © burned guy fell in love with Constance.
Perhaps it went like this:
(1) Constance lives in the house, catches her husband cheating, and kills poor, hot Moira.
(2) Constance moves out into the next house down the street.
(3) Burned guy falls in love with Constance and his wife has her own fiery reprisal.
(4) Constance moves back into the house and lives with the burned guy, second son and Tate both die.
(5) Something else happens and Constance moves back to the next house.
I can’t figure out how else this works. But maybe I’m missing something. Maybe the burned guy wasn’t living in the house after all, but was in a nearby house when he told his wife he was leaving her.
Of course, other possibilities are that someone is still lying in what the audience has been shown (such as the first burned guy story) or that the writers don’t have it all clear either.
Anyone understand this part of the story?
I’m guessing #4 became either Rubberman or a prominent Scientologist entertainer.
So what’s the chronology on the house that we know of?
1920s: Built, home to Dr. and Nora Montgomery
1930s: unknown (unless the Montgomery murder/suicide/Frankenbaby was in the '30s)
1940s: unknown
1950s: unknown
1960s: double murder of the girl and the nurse
1970s: abandoned and in disrepair as of late 1970s when Addie saw the juvie twins enter
1980s: lived in by Constance, who killed Moira and her husband there
1994: lived in by Constance until Tate was killed and then by Larry, OR vice versa
2010: lived in by the gay couple
Anything else known?