American Idol - Finale

Archie’s A Moment Like This (or whatever they call this crapola). I actually have to give this one to Archie. Oh god the song is awful, just oh-lord-kill-me-now hideous, and Archie made it seem pretty and sincere and - dare I say it - moving. He *sold *it, and it was no easy task. Good for him.

I’m not even gonna post Archie’s Imagine because I thought it was god-awful. Not only a terrible choice but a performance leagues worse than he did originally. And what is with the sailor suit? Oh wait, that was another song. But still. Honestly.

Cook’s I Still Haven’t Found… is posted above. I’ve been saying to the SO for weeks that Cook is going to be the next Bono. Ding.

Are we spoilering Dialidol (may cause death), cuz:

Cook is wiping the floor with Archie. Not even close.

Me too. Simon had an almost distasteful look on his face after praising Archuleta’s first song, like even he couldn’t believe what he was saying. It’s the way you look when you tell the burglar that you’ve already been robbed once this week and there’s nothing left to steal. You sorta hope they’ll believe it but you’re not sincere and the burglar senses this.

Hey wait…I am missing one of Archie’s. What was his Clive Davis song? I can’t find it. :confused:

Don’t let the sun go down on me.

Ah, thanks BetsQ.

Well, I thought this was great! I think Randy J. laid it on a little thick (part of the strategy?) to put it mildly, but I’d agree that DA eked ahead of DC in that round too. But in a competition this close, the big difference is “watchability.” As much skill and control as Arch has with his voice, he just isn’t comfortable in his skin, it’s almost painful to watch him. He lurches across the stage, he strangles the mike. He looks, as someone earlier mentioned, like he’s going to crap his pants at any moment. He invokes pity, not panty-tossing worship. DC, by contrast, is as silky in movement as Arch is in voice. If DC has nerves, we don’t see them. He is fully in his body and commands the stage from end to end. If his voice fails to soar to Archie’s heights, it doesn’t matter: he’s clearly made for this job.

I never quite understood it when people said you could tell that someone was a virgin just by looking at them. Now I get it.

Dialidol results predict a Cook win. I’m kind of surprised at that but it would be nice to see the producers and judges get thwarted like that. Of course, I have no faith at all that the show wouldn’t just fix the results if it suited them anyway.

It may be a curse instead of a blessing to win, what with the lack of control the winner might have over their material, but I PRAY that David C. will win. What a guy. Sincerity and talent, such a lovely package.

David A. just looked scared to me. “Don’t beat me Daddy, I tried to keep my eyes open!”. He may just disappear for good, if he doesn’t win. Lots of parents in a certain state have huge life insurance policies on their kids (mainly because they have so many kids, and whoops one or two might disappear, ya never know). Wow, do I hate that creepy dad out there in the audience.

Yay! I saw Michael Johns!

OK, I’ve now listened to World that I Know on youtube for the, um, 5th or 6th time, and I think it might be my favorite DC moment ever. Just beautiful.

Paula’s comments, on the other hand, just pain me.

I’m going to go vote again. And then I’m really going to get to work on my dissertation proposal…

Second. I can’t decide which are more painful to watch - the commercials or the group songs? I guess the group songs, since the commercials tend to be shorter.

BetsQ, you are there. Standing in your truth. And your light emotion is shining all around you. We are so behind you and your dissertation proposal, because you will never disser-point us because you are a star and deserve all the sunshine and truth and love. And ponies.

I actually find the Ford ads rather amusing. Then again, I am easily amused.

Why the hell were the judges ganging up on Cook? I swear they did the same thing to Syesha last week just to sabotage her. (Too obvious?)

I was literally cringing in horror at listening to David A take his huge steaming shit all over Imagine for the second time. What he did should be illegal. Gah. I had to go listen to the original on mp3 to purify my memory and purge the evil.

I had no intention of voting until I saw how lopsided the judges were. I’ll keep dialing until they cut it off.

This isn’t just a vote for the performances tonight, it is a vote for who is the best overall and clearly Cook is miles ahead of Archuleta. He’s simply a better performer. Archuleta will be forgotten within a year.

I can’t help but wonder if Fox is simply looking for someone who can compete with Disney’s Miley Cyrus.

The competition is for best singer, not best rocker. Personally, I like Cook’s style better, but Archuleta has a better voice.

Re: The “new song” round. The first one sounded like a Coke/Pepsi commercial. The second one sounded like the soundtrack from a Disney movie. I think they both did pretty good with what they were given.

Someone way up thar gave David Cook the public speaking award, and I heartily concur. This interview catches him looking like he hadn’t slept in weeks (and probably hadn’t) and yet he’s unbelievably charming and lovely and articulate. Am I just caught up in the excitement? Because I honestly believe he’s going to be huge. I mean, a legitimately, pan-genre, pan-demo freakin’ enormous star, like gracing the cover of Rolling Stone repeatedly over the next 15 years kind of star. Am I nuts?

And here’s Archuleta’s. He’s adorable and I believe he’s absolutely sincere, but the difference is pretty astounding.

Interesting moment around 3:45 when he kind of goes through an internal dialogue about winning: “that’d be so…it’s such a huge step. But it’s not always about that.” Interesting that he calls it a step. A means to an end. A notch on the bedpost, if you will. You get the sense that there have indeed been times that it has been exactly about that - winning. Although I don’t doubt he loves to sing, I wonder if it has become so inextricably bonded with competing through his life that it’s not really about the art and craft of making music. He seems conflicted about saying that he’s okay with not winning. I’m not hating on Archie, mind, he is just oh-so very young. He needs the freedom to really explore his gift outside of the talent-show arena. I bet therapists have a name for psychological damage occurring to chronic participants in beauty-pageant and talent-show contests through their childhoods. Spooky.

I SO do not get Archuleta’‘s appeal at all. Yeah, he has a very good voice. And the second he comes on screen and opens his mouth I have to fast forward, I cant’ stand it. He makes me physically ill.

Cook has it all… charm, intelligence, talent, originality, looks, maturity, grace… I’m really shocked at Cowell not seeing it. Archuleta is a snore.

I hereby predict (as the poster previous already has) a huge, long career for Cook. Archuleta will be gone before he begins.

Is it really? It’s American Idol, not American Singer. Idol infers the “whole package,” of which singing is but one part. Simon may protest otherwise, but being able to sell music - through performance, relatability, etc. is as much a part of the “package” as hitting the high notes.

Am I posting too much tonight?

My opinion is that it seems like David Cook, with the business maturity to know that he’ll probably do better by NOT winning this thing, and with genuine respect for David A, who clearly wants to win this really, really badly, handed the honors to DA on a silver platter tonight. To me- and he has been my favorite since Billie Jean- David Cook was not trying at all tonight. Purposefully not trying. He loves that little squirt and he knows he’ll do just fine on his own. I feel like I could almost bet money on that.

A friend and I decided tonight that “Billie Jean” is now a verb which means “to do the shit out of something”, we both felt like DC could have billie jeaned those three songs, but for whatever reason, he did not.

Apparently Archuleta’s arrangement of Imagine is actually Eva Cassidy’s. She did it a lot better.

WTF? When she said that I looked down at the stage to see if he’d peed and was standing in it and she was trying to be euphemistic. I just hope that when she finally has her Norma Desmond meets Britney Spears breakdown it’s on air. I half expected it to come tonight. “David Archuletafetametarammalammadingdong you’re just so tubular and contrite with your fantasticism… come here and suck on my left breast so I can say you’re my baby! Come suck on mommy… and when you’re finished call me Dorothy and I’ll call you Toto Jew lemon puppy” all while a horrified Ryan tries to carry on with an “Okay, let’s see how she acts when the contestants actually come out and start singing! Singing his first number it’s David…”

The boxing analogies got really old really fast. It would have been cool if they’d let Cook and Archuleta come out and beat the crap out of each other in a no hold’s barred barefisted competition, but otherwise it ends there. (Was that Kent McCord of 1 Adam 12 fame as the announcer incidentally? And was that Luke Perry in the audience?)

Normally I see Simon as an amusing “tell it like it is [in his opinion]” Joan Rivers/Kathy Griffin/Don Rickles insult comedian slash host who’s pointed barbs are usually somewhere between devil’s advocate and dead on and certainly much needed citrus to take the Paula syrup taste out of your mouth; essentially a professional horse’s ass with some insight and above all a commercial product. Other times, and tonight was one, I see him as an obnoxious entitled spoiled horse’s ass rich kid who lived with his mommy and daddy in his 30s (which he did). It was clear he had Archuleta crowned, shrink wrapped and marketed in his mind. Did you notice how he shot daggers at DC when he said “I thought it’d be nice to do something I haven’t done before” (which I completely and totally agreed with, btw)? Don’t be a judgmental jerk for a living and then act put off when somebody disagrees with you. (And as for flawless music industry instincts- I know for a fact he passed on DC and on Taylor Hicks; how many others who either made Top 2 or sold millions of albums did he pass on? And the artists he’s “discovered” are, while certainly not talentless, all cookie-cutter. I hope Archuleta wins, Simon’s his promoter and Svengali, and Archuleta, Sr. turns out to be six times worse than his reputation.

I think all the links are on here now, but just for one-stop shopping:
ROUND 1

David Cook I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For
David Archuleta Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me, or “good time to go smoke”.

To hell with Simon- Cook took this round with that song. (Was he wearing a Star of David necklace, incidentally?)
ROUND 2

David Cook Dream Big

David Archuleta In This Moment

Did you notice he’d pretty much said exactly the lyrics of the song while being interviewed? I don’t think this kid exists when he’s not onstage. And was it just me or did you expect him to break into Don’t Cry Out Loud because his melismatic moments sounded exactly like that’s what he was going for several times.

ROUND 3

David Cook The World I Know - hardly my favorite of his performances, but I thought it bitchslapped Archuleta’s Imagine… AGAIN!

David Archuleta Imagine (the Ex-purgated Version- (the one without the gannet and the “imagine there’s no heaven” opening that never really worked)

Did he even change a note from the last time he sang it? If not, why sing it again? And does anybody know if the "exp And the way he prolongs those notes it’s like he’s punishing the song for something (the a-theistic lyrics perhaps?). The way he stretches notes it’s a pity he’s not black or he’d be a shoe in next time Soul Glo needs a jingle singer.
So, I don’t hate Archuleta, and I even think with training he could be one of my favorite singers. I really do think the kid is filled brimming with talent and once he has some life experience and his hands are untied and he starts choosing his own material. Once he learns to stop blinking T-O-R-T-U-R-E with his eyes and once he grows out of that awkward “lovechild of Taylor and Dr. Zira” monkeyish phase he’ll be cute. He’s not there yet though.

Cook is just a fnord that by this time next year it’ll be like he was there all along. He’ll keep growing, he’ll make good choices, he’ll re-release his original album and redo it with a budget, he’ll be cool.

I don’t think Archuleta will be sharing an efficiency with Sanjaya and Justin Guarini and working as a loader at CostCo this time next year, but I don’t think his first CD’s going to sell much beyond to teenaged girls. I do hope he has someone in his life to lead him into adulthood with his own interests in mind, as I really do think he has a high midichlorian level (and again and again- he’d clean up in Lion King or Aladdin or any other musical Disney cares to stage before he’s 21), but if not I see major headlines in a few years and not in a good way (or a precise one- vague vision, but something about his dad, gunfire, and either Joey Bishop or Orville Redenbacher returning from the dead).