league is full, drats.
Come here. The sandbox has room. And if Milo opens this league up for a couple more we can tangle in both leagues.
Come now, Mr. Mundi. Everyone knows you waited until the league was full, because you knew you couldn’t get that lucky against my superior FF skills two years in a row.
Your courageous taunts now are akin to one of those NBA players who always waits to try to take a swing at an opponent only after two or three teammates are “holding him back.” 
I’d be willing to go up to 16, but no higher. And I’d love to have you and Saint Zero in. Email me, and maybe we can work something out.
I’d like to see those 2 guys added. Thats my vote if it matters.
Regarding the live draft, if its got to be Wednesday can we move the time forward a couple hours? Thats too late here in the normal (Central) time zones. I can do it at 6:30 CDT.
The draft came, the draft went (on Aug 15). It looked like this:
**Unskilled Hacks**
1 Faulk, Marshall
32 Brooks, Aaron
33 Dillon, Corey
64 Gramatica, Martin
65 Levens, Dorsey
96 Crowell, Germane
97 Gadsden, Oronde
128 Baxter, Fred
129 Vaughn, Darrick
160 Coakley, Dexter
161 Riley, Earl
192 Peterson, Todd
193 McNown, Cade
224 Watson, Justin
225 Jefferson, Shawn
256 Huntley, Richard
**Rage of a lotta suns**
2 Garcia, Jeff
31 Hollis, Mike
34 Smith, Lamar
63 Wheatley, Tyrone
66 Robinson, Marcus
95 Graham, Jeff
98 Faulk, Kevin
127 Brady, Kyle
130 Porter, Daryl
159 Jones, Henry
162 Akbar, Hakim
191 Kitna, Jon
194 Hall, Jeff
223 Shaw, Bobby
226 Ward, Dedric
255 Fletcher, Terrell
**The Fighting Ferrets**
3 Warner, Kurt
30 Martin, Curtis
35 Holt, Torry
62 Bennett, Michael
67 Moulds, Eric
94 Hasselbeck, Matt
99 Conway, Curtis
126 Lewis, Ray
131 Anderson, Gary
158 Connell, Albert
163 Tomlinson, LaDainian
190 Glover, Andrew
195 Morton, Johnnie
222 Taylor, Bobby
227 Vincent, Troy
254 Archuleta, Adam
**Baltimore Weirdos**
4 Culpepper, Daunte
29 McCaffrey, Ed
36 Watters, Ricky
61 Nedney, Joe
68 Muhammad, Muhsin
93 Riemersma, Jay
100 Richardson, Tony
125 Gary, Olandis
132 Stokley, Brandon
157 Taylor, Travis
164 Flutie, Doug
189 Carter, Kevin
196 McAlister, Chris
221 Sapp, Warren
228 Burnett, Rob
253 Rice, Simeon
**The Meek Marauders**
5 Manning, Peyton
28 Brown, Tim
37 Bettis, Jerome
60 Anderson, Jamal
69 Johnson, Keyshawn
92 Collins, Kerry
101 Warrick, Peter
124 Christie, Steve
133 Kearse, Jevon
156 George, Jeff
165 Chamberlain, Byron
188 Thomas, Zach
197 Dwight, Tim
220 Mack, Stacey
229 Brown, Chad
252 Richey, Wade
**Corrado's Cavaliers**
6 Grbac, Elvis
27 Smith, Rod
38 Smith, Jimmy
59 Allen, Terry
70 Sellers, Mike
91 Mare, Olindo
102 Centers, Larry
123 Johnson, Charles
134 Pollard, Marcus
155 Stewart, Kordell
166 Brown, Kris
187 Allen, Will
198 Hayes, Donald
219 Redmond, J.R.
230 Cody, Tay
251 Goodrich, Dwayne
**Zero Machine**
7 McNair, Steve
26 Bruce, Isaac
39 Mason, Derrick
58 McAllister, Deuce
71 Wycheck, Frank
90 Wilkins, Jeff
103 Schroeder, Bill
122 Smith, Antowain
135 Bush, Devin
154 Izzo, Larry
167 Middlebrooks, Willie
186 Williams, Roland
199 Conway, Brett
218 Batch, Charlie
231 Small, Torrance
250 Kennison, Eddie
**Not In The Face**
8 James, Edgerrin
25 Harrison, Marvin
40 Gonzalez, Tony
57 Smith, Emmitt
72 Boston, David
89 Johnson, Rob
104 Couch, Tim
121 Brooks, Derrick
136 Hanson, Jason
153 Simmons, Anthony
168 Jones, Thomas
185 Butler, LeRoy
200 Wiley, Marcellus
217 Westbrook, Michael
232 Alexander, Shaun
249 Franks, Bubba
**Rockville Crows**
9 Moss, Randy
24 Favre, Brett
41 Green, Ahman
56 Staley, Duce
73 Jones, Freddie
88 Ismail, Qadry
105 Sharper, Darren
120 Akers, David
137 Glover, La’Roi
152 Thrash, James
169 Plummer, Jake
184 Kirby, Terry
201 Ward, Hines
216 Cunningham, Richie
233 Butler, Jerametrius
248 Moore, Herman
**Spiritus' Mondays**
10 Taylor, Fred
23 Owens, Terrell
42 Dunn, Warrick
55 Freeman, Antonio
74 Brunell, Mark
87 Holmes, Priest
106 Janikowski, Sebastian
119 Mathis, Terance
138 Cowart, Sam
151 Bledsoe, Drew
170 Alexander, Stephen
183 Hearst, Garrison
202 McKinnon, Ronald
215 McKnight, James
234 Spikes, Takeo
247 Moore, Rob
**Improbable Probables**
11 Bailey, Champ
22 Fletcher, London
43 Williams, Kevin
54 Vanderjagt, Mike
75 Beuerlein, Steve
86 Davis, Terrell
107 Dawkins, Sean
118 Morris, Sammy
139 Sanders, Frank
150 Allen, James
171 Harris, Jackie
182 Frerotte, Gus
203 Seder, Tim
214 Jackson, Darrell
235 Jeffers, Patrick
246 Clark, Desmond
**High and Mighty**
12 Gannon, Rich
21 Davis, Stephen
44 Stover, Matt
53 Carter, Cris
76 Hilliard, Ike
85 McCardell, Keenan
108 Prentice, Travis
117 Dudley, Rickey
140 Poteat, Hank
149 Tate, Robert
172 Blackmon, Harold
181 Cunningham, Randall
204 Hall, John
213 Jackson, Willie
236 Proehl, Ricky
245 Wiggins, Jermaine
**Continental Drifters**
13 Griese, Brian
20 Anderson, Mike
45 Horn, Joe
52 Toomer, Amani
77 Biakabutuka, Tim
84 Elam, Jason
109 Thomason, Jeff
116 Coleman, Marcus
141 Ismail, Raghib
148 Robinson, Damien
173 King, Shaun
180 Howell, John
205 Galloway, Joey
212 Carney, John
237 Bryson, Shawn
244 Burress, Plaxico
**The Welders**
14 George, Eddie
19 Johnson, Brad
46 Sharpe, Shannon
51 Barber, Tiki
78 Chrebet, Wayne
83 Pittman, Michael
110 Hakim, Az-Zahir
115 Testaverde, Vinny
142 Urlacher, Brian
147 Anthony, Reidel
174 Vinatieri, Adam
179 Beasley, Fred
206 Carswell, Dwayne
211 Hill, Renaldo
238 Smoot, Fred
243 Blanchard, Cary
**Lady's IceCubes**
15 McNabb, Donovan
18 Stewart, James
47 Alexander, Derrick
50 Sehorn, Jason
79 Dayne, Ron
82 Rice, Jerry
111 Lewis, Chad
114 Dilfer, Trent
143 Harrison, Rodney
146 Edinger, Paul
175 Thomas, William
178 Dilger, Ken
207 Vick, Michael
210 Hicks, Skip
239 Price, Peerless
242 Walker, Brian
**Houston Freeloaders**
16 Green, Trent
17 Williams, Ricky
48 Longwell, Ryan
49 Garner, Charlie
80 Glenn, Terry
81 Walls, Wesley
112 Alstott, Mike
113 Brown, Troy
144 Rossum, Allen
145 O’Neal, Deltha
176 Marshall, Lemar
177 Blake, Jeff
208 Lindell, Rian
209 Autry, Darnell
240 Wilkins, Terrence
241 McWilliams, Johnny
okay – there you have it. A few observations on my own team:[ul]
[li]I favor the steady production of linebacers over the spikes of interceptions & sacks–I am very happy with my defense[/li][li]I had a power blink in round 5 and the computer pulled Brunell for me. He was the best QB available, but I was already risking injury with my #1 and I would have gone for Boston, Moulds, or Keyshawn instead. Still, at least the yahoo didn’t pull a DL for me in round 5.[/li][li]I overvalued Terrence Mathis and possibly Priest holmes, but I wanted the injury insurance.[/li][li]Janikowski in 8 and Bledsoe in 10 were steals, but it’s hard to get too excited about a kicker and a situational QB. (Week 1 against the Bungles? You bet he’s starting.)[/li][li]Hearst was a gamble, but in round 12 I was happy to place the bet.[/li][li]McKnight might be a true sleeper.[/li][li]I have already dropped Mathis and Moore to add Lawyer Milloy and travis Henry. The first because the Cards have a bye week 1 and I didn’t want to risk McKinnon to waivers. The second because mid-range wideouts are plentiful but starting backs are not. Henry is the buzz if the week. I’ll drop him like a rock if Sammy Morris reasserts himself.[/ul][/li]
A few notes about the rest:[ul]
[li]The Yahoo board was royally screwed when it came to rating defenders. Folks who couldn’t log in, or who relied upon teh Yahoo rankings, got shafted. The waiver wire has been very heavy with people replacing the likes of John Howell.[/li][li]Edge and Moss at picks 8 & 9 were dead steals. I was gnashing my teeth that they didn’t slide one more.[/li][li]Mike Anderson at 20 was a gutsy play. Payoff and risk are both super-size.[/li][li]London Fletcher, Mike Hollis, Kevin Williams, & Ryan Longwell all went way too soon. None of them belonged in the first 3 rounds.[/ul][/li]
Well–those are the teams. Let the smack begin!
I’d like to publicly thank Yahoo for my picks, especially for passing on Randy Moss, Daunte Culpepper, Kurt Warner, Edgerrin James, Peyton Manning, Eddie George, Fred Taylor, et al, and taking Jeff Garcia with the second overall pick. Thank you, thank you, I’m going to shoot myself now.
Although, really, this just adds to the rage of a lotta suns I’m feeling right now, so it’s very auspicious- I sense a playoff berth.
I had made a list of the top eight players, and the only one left was Moss. I considered, for a half-second, picking someone else, and then I realised “It’s Randy Fucking Moss! Pick Him!”
You must be channelling my team, because I’m the only sure thing for a playoff spot.
I justed wanted to throw in my 2 cents here about the draft. First, it was a blast! I had a great time picking, chatting, getting E.James with the EIGHTH pick, and drinking with everyone. It will be a shame when I have to ruin the nice feelings by crushing all of you, but C’est La Vie.
Second, I was amazed how quickly the QBs disappeared. I waited until the 6th round, and you can tell by my lack of a star QB. (As an aside, the funniest thing I heard on the radio last year was one of those NFL updates where a reporter from Buffalo says: “The Bill won the coin flip … Rob Johnson was injured on the play.” Cracked me up.) But I’ll make that up with my Colts heavy offense.
Third, 16 teams dillutes the talent quite quickly. I sense there will be quite a few waiver moves and trades once the season starts.
Finally, my projections:
1st ME!!! (Not In The Face) I picked a strong offensive starting team (except in weeks 1 and 5 where bye weeks may hurt me), and still ended up with my top 2 defensive players.
2nd Fighting Ferrets. Having a qb,wr tandem is either pure genius (if they both stay healthy) or pure idiocy. Big risk for Milo, but it could pay huge dividends. He also has nice depth though.
3rd Meek Marauders. Although your team is first in line for the Geritol, if they perform like they can, you can challenge.
It should be a fun season. And, just cause I like to say it: Chris Fuamatu-Ma’Afala…
[sub]Looking at my team again[/sub]
Oh lord oh god Yahoo wasted my second pick on a KICKER?
This is my punishment for not being able to make the draft, right? Getting Garcia with my first and Hollis with my second?
I’ll come back from this, oh, yes, I will. I’ll be like the gunk on the bottom of your shoe that you don’t remember stepping in, but you keep scraping the sole of your shoe on the front step, but the gunk never comes off? So you end up tracking into the office, and everyone is sniffing the air and wondering what that godawful stench is, but you don’t want to admit that it’s the thing you stepped in out in the parking lot, so you end up trudging around all day with that gunk on your shoe that won’t come off, and you’re full of rage?
I’m that kind of rage. I’m going to sneak into the playoffs with a horrible record, but steal a wildcard berth.
First, [sub]and then I promise I’ll let it go forever [/sub], WHAT THE FUDGE was up with the blinking Yahoo! Server letting me be logged onto Yahoo!, see the draft results, everything EXCEPT actually enter the draft. And worst of all was that I had actually done my homework and spent hours researching and ranking all available players, sorting the wheat from the chaff. Its impossible to say what would have, could have been, but suffice to say that my draft would have been entirely different if this had not happened. Luckily I had been fooling around a bit with the pre-draft rating thing a couple of days before, so I didn’t get stuck with Jeff Garcia as my number 1 pick, but I had only thrown a few players in there to see how the thing worked, my ratings in the end were way different. The worst part was not the beginning, but the crucial middle rounds where I watched helplessly as that soulless machine picked guys I would never have taken in a million years. I think that as of yesterday I have dumped half of my original team and replaced from waivers and free-agency.
Okay, I feel better now…
The silver lining is that when I go out and kick collective butt, it will be based purely on my skill and derring-do, ability to find the rare needle in the hay stack, and not just because I had the first overall pick.
Let the smack fu continue… Unskilled Hacks RULE!!
LNO
Check your email. I might be able ot help you with your Garcia issue.
Hamlet
Your first three picks were righteous studs, aided by the inexplicable tumble of Edge, but I scoff at Emmitt Smith and thomas Jones as second and third RB’s. Smith will see 8 in the box all year, and Jones will get benched for Pittman by mid season.
Boston is a stud, but he has Ol’ Snakey throwing to him, which means inconsistency. His numbers will also suffer if the cards really do manage to emphasize the power running game behind their massive O-line.
I match up better than you at every position except TE (where Gonzalez has no peer) and primary RB, and if Taylor stays healthy (and/or pigs fly) the RB slot’s a wash, too. And when Rob Johnson goes down with his third minor boo-boo of the year, you’ll be riding the Couch-potato express to mediocrity.
Montfort
You should have gone with your first instinct. Really. I’m not just saying that.
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LNO, I feel your rage! FWIW, you will be my favorite underdog team right after my own. Empathy man, empathy.
[Cheerleaders]
Go RAGE!
Go HACKS!!
It’s your birthday, woo hoo!
[/Cheerleaders]
ShibbOleth
A likely story. We know you were slavering for Todd Pederson and Cade McKnown.
Suck it up. No sympathy for anyone who has the Marshall Plan to fall back on.
A little bit of sympathy for Dorsey Levens and you rWR corp (though if Crowell gets healthy he’ll be a producer)
Why did Yahoo draft a kicker for me?
So I could kick myself for missing the draft.
See, it’s sort of Zen-like. And I’ve gotta find the humor in the situation if I want to stay sane.
And Mundi? I’ll have a counteroffer for you momentarily.
You call Kevin Faulk a counter offer?
It’s early in the day. You need to get me after I’ve been drinking. A lot.
Faullk can’t even beat out the 2nd best runner that the Bills released this season for a starting chance. He’s the third down back on a bad offense.
Oh, man–thanks for the laugh, though. Mondays are always better with a chuckle.
So . . .ShibbOleth.
Want to talk about Aaron Brooks?
Okay, okay. We keep the trade as it currently stands, but you send me your address and I send you a case of your preferred beer.
Sheesh, some people drive a hard bargain…
Better be a good offer, he’s lookin’ pretty sweet these days. I’ll need a starting QB.
[sub]Here’s what my draft would have been:
QB: Peyton Manning
RB: Ahman Green
RB: Warrick Dunn
K: Martin Grammatica
WR: Muhsin Muhammed
This takes into account who would have been available at what picks.
I got bored after that… [/sub]
And now that I have looked through what some people took, WTF is with people/yahoo taking defenders and kickers so high?
You’re absolutely right about enjoying a good laugh on a Monday. Let’s check the matchups:
QB
Johnson and Couch
v.
Brunell and Bledsoe
You have two known commodities. They are known for being mediocre at best in fantasy football. Add to that the fact that both have lost their #1 receiver and have a porous O-line, they are in big trouble. Johnson has to potential to really do well, and even if he is average, he’ll still beat your QBs. Couch is finally in a system that fits him, he has a great (if somewhat injured) receiver corps. He’ll be my sleeper stud this year.
Edge, Smith, Jones and Alexander
v.
Taylor, Dunn, Holmes, and Hearst
Edge, although I got him more by luck than skill, could make up for 3 bad rbs, but I got 3 starters, and a backup (alexander) who has had a good camp and plays in a dream offense for a running back. Emmitt is chasing a record, they have long ball threats, and he’s just plain good. Hell, last year they put 9 in the box and he still produced. Jones had a bad rookie season, but he’s got potential. He’ll do me fine. As for your team, Taylor - injury risk, he’s excellent when he plays, but you are never sure when that will be. Dunn - He’s your number 2??? Hahahahahaha. Dunn v. Emmitt Smith…hahahaha. The preseason hype is Dunn will be the next Faulk, with them running him, throwing to him, and making him their #1 threat. Well, don’t buy the hype. With alstot back, he’ll miss the TD opportunities, and he’s a scatback. Holmes - I liked the pick. He has a ton of upside and with the Chief’s offense, he may turn out to do really well. However, big questions with RBBC with Tony Richardson taking the red zone carries. Think Napoleon Kaufman. Hearst is a trendy pick, but he’s been out of football for two years and I just don’t see him having an impact.
Harrison, Boston, Westbrook, Darnay Scott (recent addition)
v.
Owens, Freeman, Mathis, McKnight, R.Moore.
Owens has no rb threat, no jerry rice, and a bad attitude. There is no way he comes close to last years stats. Freeman is a good #3 receiver, but he has gone downhill since signing his huge contract. I don’t see him getting better now. Mathis was just plain a mistake. McKnight is a deep threat, but one 71 yard preseason TD is about all he’ll really get. Tony Martin couldn’t do it with the Dolphins, neither will McKnight. Rob Moore I like, he could be the comback kid, as a #2 behind Boston. Harrison is the 2nd best WR out there, Boston is on the verge of greatness, Westbrook and Scott are merely high possible return. If either can come back from their injuries, they’ll really put up the stats. I gambled, and we will see.
Gonzo
v.
Anybody else.
Gonzo, 'Nuff said.
Kickers, and Defense, I dont’ really need to break these down, except to mention I have the best LB in the business.
Of course, all this will be shown in a few months, and I’ll be talking smack with you till I bury you this season. Care for a little side action??? Say a football jersey from our respective teams?? let me know.
Good Luck!!! It’ll be fun.