A new thread on information regarding paganism or Wicca should be in the GD forum.
It might be construed as “witnessing.”
SoxFan59
“Its fiction, but all the facts are true!”
I would love a thread on paganism and/or Wicca. Seer, did you start one yet?
trisha
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice - Albert Einstein
I’ve just created one:
http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000227.html
In case the link doesn’t work, the thread is over in GD, entitled Wicca and Paganism.
I’m not a warlock.
I’m a witch with a Y chromosome.
Thanks Auraseer for your answers. And I apologize for calling you a “warlock.” I just thought that term meant male witch. I didn’t know it was offensive.
Oh, and Slythe, you don’t have to worry 'bout me. All I was interested in is what they (Wiccans) believe. And actually, from Auraseer’s response, I can see that I was way off about what they believe.
If somebody wants to start a new thread in GD, then that sounds like a good idea.
Adam
The other day a man walked into a Jewish community center in California and opened fire into a crowd of teachers and children.
He disagreed with their religious views.
He could not accept that they had a right to seek God in their own way. An infinite God, with infinite aspects can be examined and approached in many ways, all valid.
ARG, how close are you to that man with the rifle?
ARG, are you kin, spiritual kin, to that man with the rifle?
Don’t answer me.
Don’t ask yourself.
Ask that God you always claim you talk to.
Ok, this question is pure bait, but I’ll bite anyway.
You ask:
Aparently, you don’t know me very well, and haven’t read my posts. (Not ALL my recent posts)
I am a very peacable (is that a word?) fellow, and I’m very much against fighting for any reason. I’d rather fight my battles with words, than by physical means. Plus, I don’t even know much about that moron in L.A. except that he was a member of a White Supremist group. So, no, he and I are nothing alike. In fact, had I a weapon with me, I think that I might shoot the man with the rifle, if I felt it was absolutely necessary.
For the record, not everyone who is Christian is a snake grabber, and not everyone who says they “hear from God” really does hear the voice of the Father.
Adam
Adam, my boy, I appreciate your enthusiasm. But you need to remember that true Faith is based on Love, not Fear.
From ARG220:
Excellent! He’s finally learning something! And perhaps he’ll even examine his own claim to have heard from God.
As to his remark about a particular question above being pure bait:
Wrong! That question was posed politely and with an express end obvious to most who can think critically.
However, those who’ve been homeschooled by incompetents…
ARG, I have read your posts. And I’ll give you a little shock—your line about how"peaceable" you are is pure CRA*P!
I live in the South. I’ve seen the remains of bookstores burned by people like you. I’ve seen classmates at college who were beaten up by crap artists like you. You ‘love everybody’—until it becomes obvious that they will not bend to your will.
Yours—not God’s.
Then the bloodshed starts.
I’ve read too much history not to recognise the potential that your religious bigotry represents. People like you just use a church as an excuse to hate . Your own words about other faiths betray the truth about yourself.
You believe that you serve God, but in truth… your views confound the doctrine of “love thy neighbor as thyself”–said to be the greatest commandment----truly, sir; half-men like you are Hell’s best servants.
I say a half-man , because to be a WHOLE man, you need love and compassion for all of humanity. I hope someday you see the error in your flawed system of belief.
Have you discussed your differences with others on the web with your family clergyman?
He might give you a good talking to.
Daniel: you must have missed the posting from Adam in which he told us all that he gets his ideas of God from his 12 year old brother; evidently that’s his “family clergyman.”
This is wrong, SO WRONG. I have disagreed with Adam often, he sometimes needs to have more information about a topic before he starts shooting his darn mouth off. But, never, not once, has he come close to condoning violence. He has even made steps (small steps, but steps nevertheless) to overcome his outright ignorance of other religions. He has has made it clear that he doesn’t believe other religions are correct, but what is wrong with that? He asks questions of Auraseer, and he seemed genuinely interested. He is improving.
There are millions of religous people in the world who don’t commit violence, yes some of them are even fundamentalist… Hey, you are a hardline Muslim, you must be carrying a Bomb, Hey you are an Irish Catholic, is that an uzi behind your back? … and so on, to compare Adam to that madman in LA, is ridiculous and unfair, I believe.
pat
Pat,
You seem to be one of the few fair and honest persons out here.
Keep being you man!
Contestant #3
I would have to agree with Pat. I think that ARG is a bit overzelous (sp?), but he has never even threatened anyone that I have seen in his disagreements.
I too think that ARG is learning to be more understanding of other religions.
Please keep it up ARG.
Jeffery
Daniel: It’s a shame that you have to witness the hate displayed in the “name of God” in the south. It’s also a shame that you’ve steryotyped me, based on the actions of a few crazies. The truth is that you know nothing about me. How can you possibly predict what I’d do in a situation, based on my posts.
I am a person who hates violence. And I’m ashamed to be associated with anyone who claims to be working on “God’s behalf” when they burn down a Baptist church, or bomb an abortion clinic. I also hate it when “Christians” say hateful things about others, claiming that God hates them. (like gays for example) Those are the kind of people that cloud your image of what a Christian is.
Monty: you said:
You know what Monty? I have to be honest, when I say that you make me…let’s just say, very angry. How can you possibly call yourself my brother in the Lord, and then twist my words AGAIN to make me look bad?
I said on 7-09-99:
So why Monty, do you twist that into:
Just do me a favor, and stop twisting my words around, ok?
Adam
Gee, Adam, I didn’t think a little twisting would bother you too much, given that you have consistently made false claims about what other people believe and then refused to actually find out what they believe.
It bothers you? Well, it bothers the rest of us, too. This is the Straight Dope®, meaning Accurate Information, and instead of disagreeing with the teachings of Catholicism, Judaism, Mormonism, Islam, and other beliefs, you have repeatedly made false claims about those beliefs. You want to be treated nicely and fairly? Then start obeying all ten commandments and stop leaving out the one prohibiting false witness. Until you can grasp that (and act on it), the rest of us are going to just laugh at your whining about Monty’s posts.
Tom~
Tom: Yea, I know it was whining. I kind of wish I could take that post to Monty back now. But you can’t compare him to me. This isn’t the first time he has twisted my words. It’s obvious he has something against me personally. (Am I right Monty?)
Anyway, what do you mean I bore (beared?) false witness? Did I ever lie about another religion? To the best of my knowledge, I didn’t. You may not agree with what I say, and it may anger you that I’m right, but it doesn’t make me a liar. Besides, doesn’t lying require you to actually know the truth in the first place? So, if I lied about another religion, maybe I didn’t know it??? Maybe I just didn’t know what I was talking about in the first place? (which is doubtful anyway)
But come now Tom, you can’t possibly compare me to our scheming friend Monty.
Adam
Adam said
You watched Clinton’s deposition didn’t you?
Does your business card now read: “Saving souls and twisting semantics my specialty.”
If you don’t know something or you’re not sure then you should state “I don’t know,” or “I’ve been told” or “IIRC” or “I’ve been lead to believe” or “I’m not sure” or “I’ve heard (here you should put who you heard it from) that.”
Otherwise ppl will assume that you’ve actually done some research on your own or that you do know what you are talking about.
[[Anyway, what do you mean I bore (beared?) false witness? Did I ever lie about another religion?]] Arg
Yes, repeatedly.
[[ To the best of my knowledge, I didn’t.]]
You considering law school?
[[ Maybe I just didn’t know what I was talking about in the first place? (which is doubtful anyway)]]
Now that’s funny!
[[But come now Tom, you can’t possibly compare me to our scheming friend Monty. ]]
Of course not – Monty is a valuable, intelligent poster and you’re neither.
I’m not lying, I’m ignorant!
“…scheming friend Monty…”
This is right-wing christian love at it’s finest, folks. Maybe it’s time to stop accepting Adam’s so-called apologies, because they are just attempts to further his religious “witnessing”. He has been taught that, when it comes to converting people to his religion, the ends justify the means. Lying, name-calling, ignorance, apologizing-whatever it takes to keep you from walking off.
Think about this-if I had pulled half the stuff Adam has pulled in his posts, because I didn’t say, with a tear in my eye,“I love you, please forgive me.”, would you have been as forgiving to me?