Very many, very many thanks to Gaudere. {& this time I even got the name right!}
The latest report Associated Press report: U.S. Protester Killed by Bulldozer in Gaza.
Well, I think you’re all being terribly unfair.
Mr McDuff has come with a brand-new original idea that nobody has heard of before:
“It’s all the fault of dem Kikes!”
It’s not his fault that it’s all exactly the same as all the other “It’s the fault of dem Kikes!” threads, where we go around, and around, and around, and around the same old arguments where we pretend that it isn’t all the fault of us Kikes.
After all, Mr McDuff is perfectly correct, nobody has ever suffered as badly as victims of us Kikes. There’s all these young Palestinians around and us Kikes wrap explosives around them and tell them to blow themselves - and evil Kike toddlers, women, children and men - up just so the media can feed into the Palestinian propaganda machine that reveals the truth about us evil Kikes, that no Kike has ever suffered and it’s all about us Kikes torturing and killing the rest of humanity.
No, Mr McDuff, is absolutely right - us Kikes were born to ‘take it’ and we really shouldn’t try to protect ourselves, otherwise we might upset all those wonderfully, sensitive people who know the truth, “It’s all the fault of dem Kikes!”
After all, remember, if we’d just accepted Jesus we’d have avoided a couple of millennia of attempts to wipe us out.
In other words, Mr McDuff, you’re doing a wonderful job.
Although whitetho beat me to it, here are some more links about the US protester that was killed:
Israeli Bulldozer Kills US Woman, 23
So far both the Israeli military and the US State Department have no comment on the incident, althoughHaaretz quotes a spokesman as saying this was an accident.
I don’t know if the IDF is having a bad week, month, or year, but it seems to me that after 9/11, the current Israeli government has used its military strength without much feeling of restraint or remorse.
Looks like us evil Kikes are at it again!
oddly enough, neither is this a brand-new original thing to post. When you have an army largely supplied and funded by the US, some US people might take a heightened interest in what exactly you do with it, because we share in the responsibility. Nothing personal. Kindly get stuffed.
Thank you, Tee!
How can us Kikes be punished enough without the wonderful and earth-shattering insights of people of goodwill such as yourself.
<hint> I agree with you, I wouldn’t trust people like you to avoid some Jew-baiting/Jew-killing as far as I could throw you. </hint>.
----The Arabs were offered half of palastine, including a lot of territory in what is now Isreal. Instead, they refused, on the grounds tat they didn’t want the Jew to pollute their landscape.—
I just had to comment on this, because it conceals some really misleading rhetoric. It gets some of the reasons right: Israelis in particular dominating the landscape, but misses what is actually at issue. What is at issue is that “Palestine,” even under the best agreements is made into a stained glass window and Swiss cheese, with its major transportation features being roads leading to Jewish settlements which are at various times of the day “settlers-only.” Traveling to and from anywhere within “Palestine” often requires waiting for hours or even days to get through checkpoints or wait until the special times when non-Israelis are allowed to cross or use the special highways that crisscross the territory.
Now, this situation is not exactly to the Israelis preferences: its that way in a large part because of the acts of Palestinian terrorists attacking traveling settlers or blowing up the roads leading to settlements.
But it’s also a little disingeuous to simply paint the Palestinian objection to this situation as being some sense of “racist pollution” of their land. A much more reasonable appraisal of their complaints would find them to be at least legitimate for everyday people: even under the settlements their “nation” would consist of countless tiny enclaves cut off from each other by roads still controlled by Israeli military and specially reserved for Israelis. They would still remain basically second-class citizens in their own terrotory. If you really think complaints about this situation constitute complaining about Jews “polluting” Palestine, it’s hard to see why it wouldn’t be just as legitimate to say that the settlers fear “pollution” by Palestinians in THEIR terrotory. After all: they’re the ones walling away larger and larger parts of the area for Israeli-only living and transport.
OK, just so you all know, my response to McDuff will be about 12 hours past due, owing to my server being gay…
The extreme element will always be there no matter what. By building up Saudi Arabia, we made Usama’s family wealthy beyond the wildest nightmares of your avergae american, in less than one generation at that. Hmmmmmmmmmmm, we make his daddy rich, develop his nation with our oil money, yeah that’s a perfect reason for the man to hate us & fly planes into our buildings. Point is, there will always be moron hater types in the woodwork.
Regarding the Provos… They never had as a goal “The complete Destruction of the UK & repopulation of Anglia with the sons of Eyre.”
And don’t blame the UK for the situation in Isreal. The original deal they cut for the Arabs in Palastine was far better than anything decades of war and terrorism will ever get them. They wet the bed, now it’s time to sleep in it.
Yeah, but for better or worse, the die have been cast. It all goes back to the old “If my aunt had balls, she’s be my uncle.”
I agree that Sharon’s actions are insane, but only because he lacks a coherent objective & spends far too much time reacting. It’s time to shit or get off the pot. Either he goes all out, annihialtes ever suspected PA member, or the bend over & “make peace” (which will never really take place as long as the PA knows there are still Jews in the region), with these criminals. Dithering will only perpetuate the cycle.
Hate to be the one to tell you, but there were Jews in 'Salem long before there was a such thing as an “Islamist,” or even a such thing as The Prophet Muhommed, for that matter. It’s not imperialism, more like the landlord coming home and telling the teenaged renters to turn the freakin music down.
As for Americans in Baghdad, yeah that would be terrible. Imagine how awful Iraqi lives will become when there is no more Stalinist Dictator to cower under. It will get even worse when we start investing in their reconstruction and eventually being the average joe Iraqi’s lifestyle up to par with his neighbors in Kuwait or SA. That would be horrific. Imagine all the choices they will suddenly have to deal with at the new local Tescoe (as soon as they figure out what one of those are), and BestBuy. Man will they be hating life when they are allowed to travel freely & join the rest of the modern world… You are right American imperialism sucks. And has everything to do with the ancient issues in Isreal & the west bank.
Great post jjimm, great post. You’ve identified something crucial - that is, the “recipe” or “ingredients” which are necessary to breed a generation of terrorism - in any country or region.
In your paragraph above, in particular, the comment which worked for me was the one pertaining to “political disenfranchisement”. In the context of Palestinian Arabs, historically, they (collectively) have made some terribly unwise moves at a political level.
Arguably, with hindsight, their dumbest ever move was to reject “outright” a proposal made by the British in 1937 named the “Peel Commission” headed by Lord Robert Peel, which argued that a co-operative existence in Palestine between Jews and Arabs was unworkable, and that separate autonomous regions should be set aside for both groups to live in, under a Westminster System of one secular goverment authority and 117 seats - representing suburbs and regions in the country. At the time, Palestinian Arabs still had a 70% demographic share of the region and they would have TOTALLY dominated such a legislature - they would have ruled the country - and would have done so with impugnity.
However, for whatever reasons, the Palestinian Arabs dug their heels in and outrightly rejected the “Peel Commission” - arguing that NO Jew would ever be welcome in a position of governance in Israel. By any yardstick, this was a really dumb move. By arguing the unrealistic option of “ALL or NOTHING”, the Palestinian Arabs betrayed a dreadful lack of understanding about what was happening in the “real world” outside of just Palestine - namely, that Jewish immigration into the region was only JUST beginning to unfold - and if they had implemented a government in 1937 where THEY were totally in control, they could have decidec where, and how much of that immigration went.
But they, (the Palestinian Arabs) squandered that remarkable opportunity. And they squandered many others too. And in doing so, all along, their “demographic presence” continued to drop in relation to the inexorable and relentless immigration of Jewish refugees into the region.
Ultimately, as well all know, the Palestinian Arabs chose to ally themselves with Arab League and allowed a war to be declared the very next day after Israel was proclaimed a state in 1948.
This set the seal, forever more, of the Palestinian Arabs to be in a situation of being “politically disenfranchised” and further, by allowing their cause to be continually hi-jacked by maniac groups like Hamas, they do their cause no good service whatsoever.
The Palestinians traditionally have lacked a quality unified leadership. Even the PLO was a manufactured product by Nasser in 1964, and was as much a power play by Egypt against Syria for control over the Palestinian people as anything else.
It seems to me that the Palestinians desperately need to organise themselves into a creditable democratic sub group of Israel as quickly as possible. And they ALSO need to reject the maniac fringes which STILL call for the outright destruction of Israel. And they need to do this AS SOON AS POSSIBLE - for everyone’s sakes.
Certainly, Israel could help the Palestinians achieve this goal I rather think.
As I said jjimm, your post was excellent.
Arafat “lucked” into his position. He was put there by Nasser in 1964 due to Arafat’s long term residency in Egypt prior to that.
The Palestinians have never TRULY had the opportunity to elect their leadership - and it has done them a dreadful disservice I rather think.
Wrong. Over 3,000 people were killed, but that number includes killings by loyalist paramilitaries and security forces. The IRA were responsible for “only” about 1700 deaths. Cite.
I disagree also that “everyone” in Britain knew that that wouldn’t justify barbarism, and that the British response didn’t inflame the situation further, but that’s probably a subject for another thread.
candida, I am glad that you are lending support to McDuff’s point of view. I agree he has a strong point but I think you are taking it a little too far.
Just a correction on the terminology. I looked up kike in the dictionary - it is an offensive word for a jew. The perpetrators of the violence are not jews, the violence is provoked by the Israeli government. Judeism is a peaceful religion.
Michael James Tyler - Yes, Arial Sharon is evil and he will probably be locked up one day.
Just another minor correction :).
I agree with the first statement above - the PLO was originally a creation and tool of Nasser.
However the second is in error - Arafat wasn’t put in power by Nasser. The first leader of the PLO was Ahmad Shuqairi, a Nasserite puppet. Arafat’s al-Fatah ( founded by a small cadre including Arafat in Kuwait in 1957 ) and other groups were actually marginalized a bit. It was only after 1967, when Nasser and the concept of pan-Arabism was seemingly shown to be impotent, that the PLO became prominent ( and more distinctly “Palestinian nationalist” in nature, rather than pan-Arabist ) and Arafat vaulted to power in 1968/69 ( on his own merits, such as they were - i.e. Fatah was at least seen to be doing something, however ultimately unproductive it was ). Also Arafat wasn’t a resident of Egypt at all in the several years lreading up to 1964 - As mentioned, he was in Kuwait. Though it is true that his father was Egyptian and Arafat had briefly served in the Egyptian military earlier. In contrast his mother was from the one of the two most influential Arab families in Jerusalem, the al-Husseini’s ( the other, somewhat rival major family in Jerusalem, interestingly enough has produced one of the most prominent anti-terrorist Palestinian moderates, Sari Nusseibeh ).
- Tamerlane
antechinus
Thank you for pointing out to this Jewess that ‘kike’ is an offensive term.
Thanks Tamerlane! I just went back to my history and you’re right. For some silly reason, I keep trusting my own memory recall instead of verifying with some certitude the accuracy of the minutae.
I graciously stand corrected! 
The story about
Here is the whole story with photograps and everything:
- She can very well be seen.
- She had a megaphone
- She was wearing a fluorescent red jacket.
- The confrontation had taken two hours, so everybody knew what it was about.
Someone who knows how to put here the photoraphs, please put them here (if possible) so that everyone can see it.
(I bet some readers are too busy to open the link, by himself).
And pictures are easier also for those readers that can’t read.
Have a nice day, the war begins tomorrow.
Henry
People like me…Catholics? the Irish? MA conservatives…? What, exactly.
Well, Tee, it has to be said that Catholics, particularly Rightist Catholics, have a tremendous history of Jew-baiting and Jew-killing; second to none until the activities of a certain Austro- German, ex-Catholic Rightist, one might say. Being Irish may be a mitigating factor, possibly because the Irish were too busy being persecuted to bother with the very few Jews around.
Meanwhile, I might have just meant those disposed to the endless one-sidedness one sees - a one-sidedness that has seen this particular Jewess move recently from the position of having always been a pretty consistently strong critic of Israeli policy.
Being critical of Israeli policy is one thing, seizing - uncritically - on each and every possible error or infraction speaks of something else.
Henry B - you can’t put pics on the SDMB. But I do urge people to follow his link (warning: distressing images).
Wow, candida; apparently you and I are the only ones here whose “obvious whooshing” meters are pegged. I found it obvious you were making a joke aimed at antechinus and at least one other (the OP).