I think Boomer had a new navigator so that she could be whacked. I was expecting them to buy the farm.
Six couldn’t be knocked up. Baltar had sex with Six, but that Six was deep-sixed in the Cylon attack. The Six he’s been talking to ever since is either a hallucination or some kind of VR projection from the chip in his head, more likely the latter. The Cylons will have to provide Baltar with another Six, one with an actual physical body, if they want any breeding done.
I don’t think the Galactica Boomerbot got the programming to whack Adama until she encountered all the nekkid Boomers on the Basestar. They figured out that she was on a kamikaze run, of sorts, and adjusted her programming a bit and sent her back as a bit of revenge.
It’s going to be interesting watching them juggle the various threads they have going for next season. The Caprica group is hosed…there is no room in the raider for more than Starbuck. On top of that, the fleet will obviously be jumped after the hit on Adama. Where will Starbuck jump to? How will she be able to find the fleet again?
Pure speculation on my part follows: Roslin stays in charge, or retakes control after Tighe proves he can’t hold it together. She sends a Raptor back to where the fleet was, to wait for Starbuck. They use the Arrow to do something. 
I wonder, are they ever going to encounter any non-human sentient lifeforms (other than the Cylons)? The original series covered that ground in the pilot.
Re the spoilers, there’s no need to put plot details of this final episode in the boxes. It’s aired, spoilers are warned in the subject, it’s fair game. If you’re speculating about what comes next based on actual information from interviews or whatever, definitely box it, and label it as such. If you want to put random speculations based only on conjecture from stuff that’s already aired, box it if you want, but again label it as such.
Re the episode:
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A few minor nitpicks as others have observed, but they don’t torpedo the episode for me. From where I sit, this two-parter worked in a big, big way. (I re-watched the first half right before watching the finale.)
Re Adama’s decision: I disagree with those who say it’s out of character for him. I think he has ample motivation to do what he did. The president is interfering with military decisions and encouraging his officers to disregard and disobey orders, and what’s more, she’s doing it in pursuit of what he sees as a lunatic fantasy, a crackpot vision quest based on nothing but hallucination and unfounded spiritual interpretation. If George Bush called together the Joint Chiefs and said, “We’re invading Israel so we can rebuild the Temple,” I certainly hope the brass would refuse to go along with it.
My only complaint is in how the scene was actually written. I think Adama would have done what he did, but I think he would have played it differently. Instead of bluntly telling the president he was “terminating” her authority, and having her catch him flat-footed by telling him the press was eavesdropping, I think the scene would have been much, much more satisfying if it had gone something like this:
Adama: Madame President, I cannot allow you to interfere with my officers and endanger the safety of the fleet…
Roslin: Cannot allow? What, are you going to stage a coup?
Adama: I don’t want to do that.
Roslin: That’s not a no.
Adama: I will do what I have to do to protect this fleet.
Roslin: Commander, don’t you see, that’s exactly what I’m doing—
Adama: Madame President, you are in the grip of a delusion. For the love of humanity, please. Resign your office. Step down. Don’t make me insist.
Roslin: And if I refuse? Are you coming over here with guns blazing?
Adama: (beat) I’ll take this to the press. I’ll expose you.
Roslin: Commander, the press is here now. They’ve been listening to everything we’re saying.
(long pause, Adama eyeballs Tigh)
Adama: Well, then, I guess we let the public decide. (hangs up)
Basically the same scene, with exactly the same result, but with a slight change in emphasis. Adama isn’t taking power for its own sake. He sees himself as being forced to take power because the president has gone completely off the rails and is going to drive humanity straight into the ditch of extinction because she thinks she’s been chosen as a prophet.
Other than that… I echo those who say that July is a long, long way off. 
P.S. I got my miniseries DVD the other day, and it’s amazing how much better it looks in retrospect, now that we’ve had a chance to get used to the new style and we understand what the new show is up to. At the time, I think we were all thrown for a loop because it was just so frakkin’ different. But looking at it again, knowing what we know now, it’s remarkable how clearly the creators knew what they were doing as they started setting out the important themes of the show. Knowing what we know how, the thing is tight. There’s a moment where Starbuck stands at her locker and prays to the Lords of Kobol, which means her similar moment in the interrogation episode has a strong precedent. There’s a moment where Roslin directly asks Adama if he’s planning to stage a coup. There’s a moment where the personal and sexual tension between Starbuck and Apollo surfaces for a moment.
And best of all, it’s fascinating to look at the early scenes between Six and Baltar, before the invasion begins, to see that Six never actually lies to Baltar about her intent, that he’s such a self-centered prig that she’s basically telling him the truth but he’s so blinded by his own ego that he sees and hears her the way he needs to. He has a line something like, “Your rooting around in the defense mainframe will give you an edge on your next bid,” and she responds with something like, “You know I’ve never actually said that’s what I’m doing this for,” whereupon he dismisses the evasion with bemused condescension, as if it’s unthinkable that a mere woman could out-think him and hide her motives from him.
If it’s been a while since you’ve watched the miniseries, I recommend you go back and check it out. Very interesting stuff.
This crappy phraseology brought to you by a nasty flu bug and a lot of Nyquil.
I really enjoyed it even after my usually second thoughts and nitpicking. Looking back over the first season I have to say my only dissappointment is Apollo. He’s a main character that the writers really don’t seem to know what to do with. He’s gone from brat, to insecure, to hero, to macho, to mutineer? It like they right out the main plot threads and then go,“Oh, what about apollo, should probably involve him in some way?” I really don’t believe that his character would up and mutiny that way. Even if he had reservations, don’t you think he would have just pulled his dad aside and hashed it out a little in private?
I don’t think Adama over reacted. The president’s decision to secretly take the one asset that could possibly save there collective asses was way out of bounds. The raptor worked but there was no way to know that it would and I’m sure adama saw that as a one way mission. I know I would never be able to trust her not to make bone head decisions, or, to leave the military issues to him. I agree that Adama isn’t just removing her as president, he’s instating marshal law.
Because someone else is The Best at Bearing Human/Cylon babies!
I’m just hoping that the glowing Human/Cylon thing in the crib isn’t Dr. Zee.
Good points about the Apollo character. They either don’t know what to do with him like you said or some of his scenes are ending up on the cutting room floor.
I vote for more Apollo and less Starbuck next season…
Funny you should say that, as one of the deleted scenes on SciFi.com is a scene with Lee and the President.
Re: The Arrow
I’m thinking that it isn’t the arrow itself that will lead the fleet to Earth - it’s the quest for the arrow that will lead them to Earth. Somehow, Starbuck, Helo, BoomerMommy and the Hybrid Baby are involved. I hope so, since I’m having the same “No Indiana Jones cliches” reaction that the rest of us are having.
The plot’s twists are particularly disturbing to me, since the Adamas and the Boomers are my favorite characters - I hate to see them suffering at the hands of the writers (those damn geniuses!). What shocked the heck out of me was the assassination (?) of the biggest star’s character. Don’t the writers know that EJ Olmos’s character is the best thing about this great show? Don’t kill him off! No!
Although, he could qualify as the “dying leader” of prophesy. As could Baltar, Roslyn, Tighe, etc. I guess we’ll see.
Gaeta is gae? How about that.
Events will probably prove Roslin was right – otherwise why include the “Apollo’s Arrow” subplot at all – but she could have been more patient. She might have ordered a mission to retrieve the arrow after the basestar was destroyed and they had a chance to reconnoiter the surface of Kobol and inspect the place the arrow was supposed to go.
I dunno. I find him admirable but personally unpleasant, definitely not somebody I would want to know. (Much like Pug Henry in the Winds of War miniseries.)
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Six couldn’t be knocked up. Baltar had sex with Six, but that Six was deep-sixed in the Cylon attack. The Six he’s been talking to ever since is either a hallucination or some kind of VR projection from the chip in his head, more likely the latter. The Cylons will have to provide Baltar with another Six, one with an actual physical body, if they want any breeding done.
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Yeah, sorry; I should have been more clear. I presumed that Baltar’s phantom Six was showing him a prophecy; something going to happen that Baltar was personally responsible for. So, I guess at some point during the next season a real Six is gonna hook up with him again. Or something.
Re: the Adama vs. Roslin subplot, I personally found that spot-on, character-wise. IIRC, Adama has made it pretty clear throughout the series that he would prefer to see martial law in place (at least as long as he wouldn’t have to deal with all those messy civilian issues) and Roslin’s going behind his back to send vital crew members and equipment on an (apparently) hare-brianed mission to fulfil a prophecy was as justifiable a situation for its imposition as there could possibly be.
Looking back over the various plot threads, there is a certain genius to the way the writers have managed to put the fleet in about the worst situation it could possibly be in without the cliche of an all-out Cylon attack: its most competent commander out of action for a long time, if not dead; the President and presumably her advisors in the brig, several of the best crew members scattered across a couple of distant planets, and in the face of all these crises, and with martial law having just been declared, up to the plate as commander steps…Tigh?!?
Yup, gonna be long wait till July, alright.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but didn’t it look a bit like Gaeta handed Boomer something right before she shot Adama? Gaeta walked up to Boomer, said “nice work” the camera tilts down toward where they would be shaking hands, but we can’t really see their hands. Generally in this show, whenever they do the jerky camera thing they’re zooming your attention on to something important, right? Could Gaeta have handed Boomer a gun?
I think this is exactly the way Apollo would have reacted because of the post-sparring match conversation with Adama about losing control being a good thing and the whole “I thought we were just sparring”/“That’s why you lose” issue. Lee listened to his dad pretty closely last time about choosing sides and ended up acting rashly then, too, by letting Zarek have control of the prison ship and promising elections.
I just checked the tape, and it does look like Gaeta could have handed Boomer something. But his reaction in the background after the shooting, grabbing the intercom to call for a medic, was that of a truly surprised and panicked man. Either real subtle Cylon programming, or he didn’t pass anything. Of course, where else would Boomer have gotten a gun after what she did with hers.
Well, unless this whole prophecy thing is about the Cylons playing her for some reason. Roslin sure treats that one priestess-type woman as her most trusted advisor, and how much do we really know about her anyway?
If the Cylons’ ostensibly brilliant plan (as prominently mentioned in the episode opener every week) does, as some people suspect, turn out to be to about driving the humans in a quest for Earth so the genocide can be completed, then that would fit right in.
And if it happens that that’s what’s really going on, I’d like to see it revealed in a clever double-bluff sort of way, as opposed to Six just telling Baltar or some other direct means of delivery. Specifically, I think it would be neat if, toward the end of the second season or thereabouts, Adama starts to suspect, based on yet another convenient coincidence or nick-of-time escape, that they’re being played, and that the last thing they want to do, really, is follow the clues to Earth. Then they get to try to form a strategy based on this half-formed suspicion, without knowing whether they’re right or not, and they get to wrestle with the dilemma of either pushing on with the quest but trying to figure out how to outsmart and ditch the Cylons along the way, or heading off in some other direction leading the Cylons away from where they think Earth might be. KnowhutImean?
I read in TV Guide that Edward James Olmos said “If they bring in any four-eyed monsters, I’m leaving”. So, I’m sure that Commander Adama will survive. I’m wondering how long his convalescence will be and if he comes back 100%.
That’s kinda what I’m thinking. She was in her flight suit, so she’d probably have that larger weapon like the one Helo uses, but the gun she used to shoot Adama looked smaller. It’s hard to tell for sure though.