Be My Dating Coach

Whoa. You mean that before you concentrated on your appearance you felt like you had to be working at keeping a guy’s favor, you weren’t forgiven when you canceled a date, and were continually being emotionally invested in guys who weren’t as invested in you? Ouch. That seems… even more unhealthy. Perhaps being able to be in control is good for you, for a while anyway. And maybe it would be good to try to find guys who aren’t quite as… umm… appearance-focused… as the ones you seem to be hanging out with. (I even have a suggestion: most techie companies or hard-science graduate school hangouts, of which there are both in the DC area, will give you the great ratio without, often, the hangups on looks. Of course, as my father-in-law likes to say, you have to put up with “the odds are good, but the goods are odd.”)

I am relatively cute, and I try to have a decent haircut and wear decently flattering clothes, but I don’t spend any time on it at all (e.g., I rarely wear makeup and I probably buy clothes twice a year) or think about it much, and I have never had problems like that – though a) I’ve always been in situations where the ratio was heavily in my favor (see above), and was interested in smart nice guys rather than good-looking ones myself, and b) I actively searched for guys who didn’t love me (primarily; obviously being cute will always help, for both sexes) for my looks (and dumped one when it turned out it was my looks he was mostly interested in, though there were other compelling reasons as well).

(And yes, I’d tell a guy who said the above to go to therapy if he wanted to have any chance with me or someone I care about, if only because that does reveal a damaged attitude towards power in relationships, but also because of that “setting the tone in the relationship” thing. I won’t deny that I know guys like that, but I’d want them to change before they got married. Or, what Wordman said.)

No there’s not. I meet my ex when she was your age, we dated for a year, decided to get married, decided to start trying to have kids, then got married. Then, the first week after she went off birth control she got pregnant. We thought it would take six months or so, it didn’t. Just because you haven’t had a scare doesn’t mean anything as plenty of people never had a scare and went on to have kids easily.

You can also have healthy kids until you’re in your early 40s, yes there can be more problems, but staying healthy and taking care of yourself will help a lot. No need to go rushing into things just for a kid.

There are also plenty of guys out there that like women who wear flats, don’t wear much makeup and all that type of stuff, me being one of them. There’s plenty of people out there, though I know how discouraging it can be.

I’m not getting it. I’m really not.

Initial conversation:
“I spent four years abroad in the Peace Corps”

Normal response from just about everyone:
“Really? That’s pretty cool! Tell me about that.”

Imagined response Even Sven believes will happen:
“Outside the country? But there be dragons there! Are you a witch?”
Secondary conversation after a month:

“Hey, Constantine! So sorry it completely slipped my mind after these past two fortnights. But I just wanted to let you know I was in the Peace Corps for four years.”

Normal response from just about everyone:
“Really? That’s pretty cool! Tell me about that.”

Imagined response Even Sven believes will happen:
“You liar! You betrayed me and everything I hold dear! If you really loved me you wouldn’t have kept this dark secret from me for so long. I…I cannot trust again.”
Seriously. Again, what the hell is the big deal here?

I still think you should date my brother. He’s 31, has been in the Peace Corps (in Cameroon no less), travelled all over the world, has a double masters, one in International Development, and is involved with microfinance, wants kids, is smart, personable, and is definitely in shape… He’s in Denver, though. :slight_smile:

She is overly concerned about losing her looks, because that’s how she’s measuring potential partners. When you’re using it as a measure of others it’s pretty difficult to not see it as their measure of you.

That’s a sweet schedule you’ve set, but you do know that life doesn’t bend to your schedule, right? No one’s life does, join the crowd. There are no promises that you’ll find a partner or a spouse or have a family. Ever. Especially when you want control, you want to be chased, you want them to be more into you than you are into them. You do sound like some one who could do a little growing up.

You say these things like you’re the only woman who ever had to face the reality of not being 20 something anymore, when it dawns on her, the life she was hoping for, isn’t going to just come for her.

You want to play the field, but are on a tight schedule to get the husband and family.
You seem to want to keep right on doing what you’ve been doing, ‘I am what I am!’, only expecting different results. That is definitely a maturity issue.

Life’s messy, get used to it. You can’t always get what you want, but if you try…well, I think you know the rest.

The fact that other people have successfully grown up doesn’t really mean that their wisdom will transfer to me by osmosis. I know I’m immature about relationships, but there is no magic maturity pill, and as long as I am honest with my partners, maintain my personal integrety, and keep one eye on my long term goals, I don’t think being on the shallow side is the worst thing in the world. Presumably I’ll eventually get tired of emotionally vapid relationships and move on to bigger things. As for this thread, I’m not complaining. I have a lot of time on my hands and I figure I could use some of it to optimize.

It’s clear to all of you that I’m not looking long-term. I think I should admit that to myself and focus on having the most fun I can short-term. I should drop my concerns about having an exit plan for a while. I should taste the rainbow, but be careful about developing feelings in situations where they are unsustainable. Given that, I can entertain the possibility of being a sex friend with Eduardo, but make some serious bounderies. Meanwhile I should work on my emotional maturity, perhaps with a therapist, until I realize there is more to life than flings with hotties. And I should make sure to drone on and on about grad school, to mix things up.

And I should be really flattered people on the internet said I’m hot and interesting. Thanks, guy!

I don’t think it’s immaturity,I think you’re turning THIRTY. No big deal, happens to all of us. (and I recall 30 was a tough one). You are well and truly an adult, and expected to act this way, and expected to be well on your way to ‘Doing The Things Adults Do’…only, you don’t necessarily want that.

You are conflicted between the things you ARE, the things you WANT, and the things you feel (for whatever reason), you oughta have.

Lemmie tellya, I dodged a SERIOUS bullet getting engaged to the wrong person right about that time in my life because I thought it was something I ‘ought’ to be doing.

You are evaluating your position in life and how it differs from some ideal that you have in your head (not fantasy, exactly, just not reality, either.)

When I was 16 (yeah, stay with me here), my ideal view of the perfect gal was one with the exact same musical tastes I had. The Marriage I have had over the last 15 years has been to a wonderful woman who’s musical interest have no overlap with mine. Meaning: The things you think are important to the kind of relationship you want may not be.

I’m not old yet, but the years I have on you say this: “Take a deep breath, you don’t need to solve this today, it may not even BE within your ability to solve, but fer OG-sakes, don’t do something because you ‘think you oughta’.”

It could very well be this desire to have dozens of hot, un-encumbered, promiscuous, devoted, boy-toys that accept you for WhoYouAre will become irrelevant because you find a relationship that is effortless. It’s just so damn easy you don’t have to evaluate it.

Or not…that’s the wierd thing about life. But stressing out about it just makes a person cranky.

hey! That’s a great Idea! Visit Denver! We’d have another Coloradope in your honor!

Seems reasonably well-processed.

How many light psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?

    --> One, but only if the light bulb *wants *to change. 

Best of luck.

If he specifically says that he’s looking for power in his relationships, then yes, I’d advise him to seek therapy.

The fact that you started this thread suggests that you’re not happy with the way your relationships are turning out. It sounds like a change in behaviors or attitude would suit you well–after all, if you keep doing the same thing for the same reasons, you’ll keep getting the same results. But if you don’t want to change, nothing can force you to.

(For what it’s worth, I also think you’re cute enough that you don’t really need to worry about your looks.)

Hang on a second…

I am thirty!!

I have backpacked solo all around the world, over a number of years!!!

I am also a sexy beast!!!

HOLY SHIT, THIS MEANS GIRLS WONT UNDERSTAND ME AND PEOPLE WONT TALK TO ME!!!

My life is over and I didnt even realise. :frowning:

Yes, but it does make sense. I had the same kind of schedule in the back of my head, and I think a lot of women do – you pad it with time (what if it takes us a couple of years to figure out we like each other enough to get married instead of two months like it took my sister, what if it takes two years to get pregnant, what if I want more than one kid…) but you really are running up against some hard fertility and getting-older-bad-ratio statistical deadlines.

Not, of course, that this should stampede anyone into choosing a mate that isn’t right for her or him.

(My husband, though he thinks I generally am relatively sane, has always been a little scared of The Schedule in the back of my head, which caused me to push engagement after only five years of dating :wink: )

I really don’t see having spent four years in the peace corps as being considered anything unusual in the DC area. Between the embassy staff, the people working at the international organizations, the folks associated with the State Departmant, USAD, and the various associated contractors, you’ll meet people who spend a lot of time abroad. My brother in law spent the last twenty some years working abroad before moving back to the states.

For the rest of the relationship issues, I think that you need to figure out what you really want. From your posts, it doesn’t sound like you want to settle down yet, but rather that you feel that because you are turning thirty, you should settle down. You still have time.

Reintegration is not easy. I’ve done it twice (grad schools after 4 years) and corporate HQ after 20 years. If it helps, it was a lot easier for me without a family and kids than with.

At least for me, the trick is to keep it high level until someone really wants to know more. “I was in the peace corp before grad school, what about you?” Focus on getting the other person to talk and share their background, and wait for them to ask more questions of you. After a half dozen questions and you realize the person is at least sorta interested and not making conversation, then give more details.

I had a girlfriend in Grad School that was constantly asking for stories and ancedotes. It took me about a month of keeping it pretty short before I figured out she *really liked *my stories, wanted me to tell more, wasn’t bored, didn’t make her feel untraveled, etc. I mean, use your best judgement, not everyone wants to get into “who can tell the funniest I crapped my own pants” story contest but there are people out there who do. And I think karma will eventually connect you with people that do think your background is interesting. Hell, I like hearing about how a mu-mu with flying toasters on it was considered fashionable dress where you were in Cameron. Wear that on halloween or as your Xmas outfit! :wink:

What the hell have I stumbled into? Just wanted to tell Sven liked the profile, and her pictures are great, esp her main profile one. You have it going on, even sven.

don’t be suckered. there’s a formidable speedbump of crazy here (speedbump of crazy meant in the nicest of ways, and with all due respect).

The only speedbump of crazy are these ridiculous message board catty backstabbing pile ons, nothing wrong with even sven.

Eh, go roast a goat.

She asked for advice. She was given advice. She has said that she appreciates the advice. How in the blazing blue fuck is this a backstabbing pile on?

catty?