Fucking deflection subject changing bullshit. Just take the advice, stop being such a lazy poster, and fact check your posts before submitting.
You don’t think it looks bad? Of course you do. You’re just practicing your playbook when it breaks. There might be a whole ten voters you can convince here.
Who cares what looks bad in this discussion? “might look bad” doesn’t justify making bullshit factual assertions, embellishments, and whining when called upon it. Do better if you want to have a real discussion. I’ll engage you on the facts when you stick to them.
The facts are that Clinton was on his plane. A witness says he was with young girls who she THINKS were underage. It is a fact that Epstein did have sex with underage girls(he was convicted of said offense).
Yeah, a reasonable person might conclude that it looks bad. There’s certainly enough evidence to keep him out of the White House. I bet you Dershowitz would never get confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice given the same evidence(and the evidence for him is pretty much the same). Oh wait, I forgot, we actually hold SCOTUS justices to standards! One sexual harassment complaint led to serious opposition to Clarence Thomas’ nomination from the same people who gleefully sent a much worse offender to the White House.
The facts are that you make up shit and embellish without apology, and I’m not going to engage you on the facts until you actually consistently stick to them.
Whatever. Take it up with the media when the story breaks. “They weren’t underage, they were 18 year olds!” LOL.
Doubling down on lazy posting is pathetic. I’m offering decent advice, as I have before, and you aren’t interested in putting the slightest bit of effort in your posting.
I provided cites aplenty. You chose to quibble over the difference between “underage” vs. “young women” and “teenage sex slaves”. Then you decided to focus on my choice of words with the flight logs and the witness. Nothing but quibbling and outrage over a story you just don’t like the implications of.
'Cause there’s no real difference between “teenage sex slaves”, “underage”, and “young women” . . . well, none that actually matters when it comes to accusing a Clinton, right?
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CMC fnord!
Do you think it will matter in terms of public perception? This isn’t a trial. It’s about what the voters will think.
You think Trump is clean from this kind of stuff?
One of his business buddies was prosecuted for having underage girls available for sale on a Yacht in Turkey. Theres much much more and it will all come out if he wins the nomination.
Trump won’t be the nominee, but nothing would surprise me about him. and I guarantee you he’d probably get a pass simply because he’d probably deny nothing. The public respects a guy with brass ones more than a sniveler. Clinton’s a sniveler.
Remember, adaher doesn’t care about reality. He’ll say anything that he thinks looks convincing, then change the subject immediately. He’s kind of a shitty person.
No, Bill Clinton is a shitty person. I’m just a poster you don’t agree with.
Nonsense. You are a shitty person. You make stuff up, you lie, you exaggerate, and you willingly and eagerly pass on whatever of those things you have picked up from somewhere. Actually, I assume that everything you post you have picked up from somewhere; I do not believe that you have had one original thought in your life. You care not one iota for truth or fact.
You simply fling your own feces in random directions in the hopes that some of it gets on someone.
Someone’s pissy. Stories that wreck Democrats tend to bring that out around here.
Yeah. Whatever.
So basically, what I’ve learned from this thread is that a woman is responsible for her husband’s behavior and it should be held against her if he does bad stuff.
No. This is kinda like Republicans and the hypocrisy issue. It’s why Republicans tend to suffer worse consequences from sexual scandals than Democrats and end up having to resign quickly. They are the party of family values, and it won’t do for candidates to preach family values while cheating on their wives.
But by the same token, you can’t claim you’re a champion of women when you let your husband get away with treating the as pieces of meat.
Unless of course we’re going to say that personal conduct doesn’t matter, in which case it doesn’t matter for Republicans either.
Bill Clinton isn’t running for office. His conduct isn’t relevant.