Boy Meets Boy - Week 5

Only two more episodes and three mates remain in the battle for James’ heart. And one of the remaining mates is straight. Unless of course the producers are lying to us; but reality TV producers wouldn’t lie, would they?

Heavy betting is on Franklin to be the straight boy. He leads the online polling with 53% of the vote, compared to 25% for Wes and 22% for Brian. I’m leaning toward Franklin myself, only because of the jaw-droppingly-obvious-in-retrospect groupings of mates to insure straights in the mix. I don’t get a straight vibe off of any of the three of them, and Franklin last week was shooting looks at some of the mates which could charitably be described as “murderous” when they got face time with James.

Tonight James reveals the twist to the Fag Hag of Mass Destruction, Andra, who from the previews apparantly reacts so strongly that her rather odd braids shoot out from her head like Pippi Longstocking’s. I’m kinda sorta hoping she tracks down the smarmy hostess Dani and puts the beat-down on her. Now that would be some quality television!

It’s not clear from the previews whether there will be another elimination tonight. My feeling would be no, because what if he eliminates the last straight boy? There goes the evil for episode 6.

For those who are interested in seeing the series from the beginning, Bravo is repeating it in a marathon on Labor Day starting at 2:00 PM EDT.

In melancholy news, the military mate has been honorably discharged from the Navy following his appearance.

It’s cases like Jason that show just how stupid the policy is. Oh he (and his ex-boyfriend) were perfectly fine sailors before anyone knew they were gay. But now he’s somehow tainted and unable to be a fit military man.

It would be interesting to know which self-loathing closet case actually watched the show to figure out Jason was a shipmate, and then ratted on him.

Too bad.

I still think James could have saved himself a lot of time and trouble if he would have just napped on any Friday night, got out of bed at 1:30 AM and gone to any West Hollywood bar and picked up a dude at “last call”. Would have also saved us from having to hear those corny phrases on the card, “Hey there Pardner, worked up a thirst on the back 40? Pick a mate and mosey on over to the juice bar at Starbucks…” Yeeeech, vomit. Who wrote that crap?

That said, I don’t want to rain on your parade.
My guess is that James will go for the superficial aspects of Franklin’s good looks. Now assuming Franklin is actually the straight one, then I don’t think he will be picked. Call me a cynic, but I think the producers will make sure a whole gaggle of Gay boys have not watched this series for weeks, only to have some breeder fuck it up at the end. I am 100% sure James will fly off to New Zealand with the lovely Gay boy we see him choose on camera. Most likely, off in the distance out of the window of Quantas Airlines, we will see Andra on her broom following close behind Dani screaming, “I’ll get you my pretty!”

DMark, no one ratted out Jason. He went to his commander and alerted him to his participation in the show before the first episode aired.

Tonight James reveals the twist to the Fag Hag of Mass Destruction, Andra

I think that’s unnecessarily cruel. I think of her more as a Fag Hag of Only Moderate to Slightly Massive Destruction.

I actually do get a straight vibe off Franklin and think his jealousy was based on wanting to win $25,000. If Mr. “You assumed I was gay… why?” Wes is the straight one then I’m going to officially trade in my gaydar on an Ultimate Chopper™.

Jason, Jason, Jason- what can ya say? When even Israel and Great Britain, both with a state religion, have gotten over the gay issue, why the hell is it still an issue in the last remaining secular superpower?
(Not to hijack, but speaking of gays in the military I’m wondering if Alexander the Great will get an orientation change in the new DiCrapio flick.)

BTW, while I haven’t seen the episode yet, but judging from the commercials it looks like Andra gets so furious when she finds out that she uses her telikinetic rage to blow up the house. I hope Wes gets out okay.

The question on the Bravo site is ‘Who is gay’.

Franklin leads with 53%. Brian (22%) and Wes (24%) follow.

I agree with Sampiro about Wes, but I’ll pick (and probably be wrong) about the straight guy. After seeing Franklin’s dirty looks last week I don’t think a straight guy would think of that.

Bob

Well, there was an explosion and Wes was involved…whether Andra played any role in it has yet to be revealed.

I’m such a sucker but I’m actually rooting at this point. I want Wes to win just because I want him to be happy. James hasn’t seemed like any great prize to me so far but presumably the mates got to know him better than I did based on my five hours of TV watching, and if Wes–presuming he’s actually gay, har har–can be happy with him then go Wes.

Nice to know that I called at least one thing right, that being Andra’s murderous rage. James and Dani both acknowledge that she is fully capable of kicking everyone’s ass. Best line of the ep was from Andra: “And what do I get? To look like an asshole on national television?” Sweetie, you accomplished that without any help from anyone.

I’m now officially undecided on who’s straight. I went in last night sure that it was Franklin. It still makes sense based on the elimination pairings. But what if the producers weren’t manipulating the selections and James could have eliminated all the straight guys earlier in the show? Or was there a straight guy eliminated who was up against Brian last week? Because this week Brian sure looked like the straight guy. Whenever refering to exes, Brian was always careful to say “person” instead of boyfriend".

The one incident that really has me confused is when Wes got back to the house and was telling the story of the candles, Franklin really came across as gay and Brian didn’t. When Wes told about the huge fire, Franklin gasped and covered his mouth with his hand - an OGT if ever there was one.

I’m thinking Brian is trhe hetero in the woodpile. Both Franklin and Wes seem to have a sense of physical comfort with James that Brian does not and as already noted, Brian says “person,” not “boyfriend.”

And if there’s a movie version of “Boy Meets Boy” Andra should be played by Glenn Close. She was giving off MAJOR “Fatal Attraction” vibes.

It was nice how Andra made the twist all about her, with that line Otto quoted above about her looking like an asshole for “shoving these guys down [James’s] throat.” James seems definitely pissed off, as he subjected the guys to what basically amounted to an interrogation on their dates. “Tell me about your last boyfriend!” “Have you ever been in love!” I think Andra’s wrath will come out full force next week as she gets to fire questions at the mates.

My money’s on Brian for the straight guy.

I agree with what Homebrew said about Franklin covering his mouth- that was really gay. (Sorry for any stereotype- I’m a queerboy too.) I now think it might be Brian.

When Wes made the “You assumed I was gay…” comment, James’ expression reminded me of Wallace Shawn in PRINCESS BRIDE: “You would never say that if you were the straight guy because you’d know I’d be onto you… UNLESS you knew I’d figured it out and that I knew a straight guy wouldn’t say that if he wanted to keep up appearances… UNLESS you figured out that…”

If Wes is straight, he’s got a great future at the CIA because he can act. I’m trying to decide if Franklin calling James “gorgeous” was gay- obviously straight men can tell if another guy is gorgeous but they don’t tend to use the word.

I’m switching my vote to Brian.

I’m betting on Franklin. He was the only one of the remaining three who responded to James’ interrogation as an interrogation. He sat there and answered questions. Both Brian and Wes took the “Why are you firing questions at me? This is a date, let’s have fun.” approach.

That being said, I don’t know if it’s because this is the first reality show I’ve watched, but I’m appalled at the cruelty shown by whoever put this thing together. The show is so petty, so downright mean, that Queer Eye coming on afterwards is like coming out of a dark tunnel into full daylight. I’ll finish watching, I can’t help that, but if they try producing another version of BmB, there’s no way I’d subject myself to it.

I can’t believe how deceitful they have been in their editing. “You assumed I was gay…why?” was totally innocuous and they played it up like it was going to be some huge revelation. And now they’re already doing it again with next weeks show: during the “Next week” segment right after the episode ended, James says “I had to assume that you are the straight guy…” And then during a promo during Queer Eye they spliced it so that James said “You are the straight guy!” Bullshit, IMO.

Then again, the whole thing leaves me kinda…irritated. I’m a little surprised there hasn’t been more backlash in the gay community for the totally deceitful nature of the show. If James had agreed to go along with there being straight guys in the mix, that would be one thing, but springing it on him was really cruel.

And why didn’t he ask Dana (can’t stand her BTW) if any of the other ones that left were straight? That would have been the first question out of my mouth. And shouldn’t he be deliberately trying to make out with the remaining three? That would ferret out the straight guy in a hurry, wouldn’t it?

I intend to write to the producers about the show. It is totally unfair to throw straight guys into the mix. Sure they wanted to attract straight viewers, but if they do the show again, and have straight guys, I don’t think gays are going to watch. Supposedly the producer is gay. He should be looking out more for his community. I’m sure he can get enough audience without counting on straights.

James should have tried some tongue kissing with the guys. The only decent kiss he had was with Wes and that wasn’t much.

Bob.

Sign me up on the Brian the Breeder Bandwagon, too. I noticed him a couple weeks ago always playing the pronoun game. Exes are always “them”, “they”, or “person”. I’m with you on the recounting of the candle story – Franklin was so queer with his responses that my doubts are gone.

Also, I’ve thought Franklin was gay for quite a while; I’m in the non-stereotypically gay crowd myself. I pass as a straight guy without any suspicion, so I assumed that Franklin could be the same.

Also also, I agree with urban1z. Were I James, I would have followed the secret revelation with 3 incidents of severe out-making. I would think some partaking in homosexual perversions would have outed the straight one pretty quickly.

Hey, I said it first! Oh, I get it, just because I’m STRAIGHT everyone ignores me in this thread. Fine. :stuck_out_tongue:

And for the record, I think Wes is the straight one. They probably based the entire show around his “audition” knowing full well that James would go for him.

If Wes is the straight guy, he’s a coldblooded dude who needs to work for the mafia as a hitman, not to mention a great actor. This isn’t to say he’s not- might be my imagination, but did he seem a bit more “butch” sometimes than others in his commentary?

This also might not be significant at all, but in one scene from next week James, Wes, and Franklin are all dressed in black and Brian is wearing light colors. Could that be significant?

I think it’s a horribly mean premise as well and would boycott it if I wasn’t dying to know who the straight one is. (OH GOD, I’M SUCH A WHORE!!!)

I suppose the straight imposter could still be any one of the three. Although I still think it’s Franklin based on certain things that happened in the show, if I had to go by my gaydar alone I would probably have chosen Brian.

I haven’t been to the Bravo website, but if their question really is “who is gay?”, that is pretty dumb, and I think the votes would tend to indicate that most of the visitors were voting instead for who is straight, like Otto suggested.

Homebrew, if I remember correctly, Brian was paired against Darren a couple of weeks ago. I agree with everyone’s comments that James needs to make out with the guys to see if they are straight…why ask stupid questions when you can get right down to it? I can’t believe how little physicality James has displayed so far–or has it been edited out?

IIRC, physicality was prohibited in everyone’s contract. James probably presumed because the producers didn’t want this to devolve into something lurid, although, something lurid it has become when someone is offered $25,000 to break someone’s heart.

When you go back to the tapes of the earlier episodes, we see Wes and Brian saying very gay things, and Franklin doesn’t. Franklin is only explicitly gay in front of James. At least, that’s how it’s been edited. They did edit the last episode to make it look like any one of the three could be duplicitous about orientation.

Remember, Brian confessed to the ‘mates’ [ugh, why are they using an Australianism in Palm Springs?] that he has a crush on Dan. And Wes, well, he camps non-stop.

And so, if either Wes or Brian is straight – then they should get the Emmy.

Peace.

Eeny meeny miney moe, catch the queer bait by the toe.