Bridget Burke

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
A lot of posts for me to reply to, so this may take a while as I’ll have to get supper and go to the pub, among other things. Then again, maybe I’ll only reply to a few posts. Starting with the next one.
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Ah, didn’t take long at all!

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
The same reason many people prefer amateur porn, or real voyeurism over the fake stuff. Or so I’d have though, hence my plan to start a Great Debates thread, which I will probably start this weekend when I have some time free.
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Well, most people who are into rape fantasies aren’t into kids. That might put a damper on that theory.

The very interesting thing about the phrase “beyond the pale” is that at a certain other board which must not be mentioned, it’s somewhat of a catchphrase. (no implications of any sort, merely an FYI)

[QUOTE=Zoggie]
Well, most people who are into rape fantasies aren’t into kids. That might put a damper on that theory.
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Yup, but they might be the next best thing. Anyway, I’m not going to discuss this anymore in this thread, because the great debate thread (and I intend a fairly well reasoned OP rather than an off the cuff remark) will be the place for that.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
It didn’t, it referred to illegal things.

Like the difference between “how much hash is there” and “how do I make hash”.

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Hash is a fine way to use up leftovers. Either beef or corned beef (if you want to be really Irish/American.)

Don’t forget the potatoes!

[QUOTE=tremorviolet]
The very interesting thing about the phrase “beyond the pale” is that at a certain other board which must not be mentioned, it’s somewhat of a catchphrase. (no implications of any sort, merely an FYI)
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Is this the one I’ve already found, or another one?

My email address (for this board) is smallshopowner at googlemail dot com if you want to send me information.

BTW, Giraffe, I have emailed TubaDiva.

[QUOTE=CarnalK]
No, I paid 15 dollars and post here for my own entertainment, jackass. It would be nice if mind-reading self-righteous prigs like yourself learned to accept that.

And “fuckwit” is tired and holds no sting.
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Then I guess I paid for the privilege of calling you a liar when I see that you are lying. I’d gladly fuck-off back to interweb abyss if you, Lib, or any other indignant twat-whistle wants to pay me off.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
A good point, actually. But it will affect the responses I get to anything else I post if I’m marked down as some sort of pervert.
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Yes, it will, which you might keep in mind when choosing the topics you post.

I guess I can understand if you want to use the anonymity of a message board to ask all the things you wouldn’t dare ask IRL, but your personality here will be determined by the things you post here, because we don’t know you IRL. So it is completely unrealistic to expect us to give you the benefit of the doubt when you repeatedly post about creepy topics. When you do, you come across as a creep.

The only “you” who exists for us is the “you” you present here. If you don’t like our judgment of that particular “you” then change it.

[QUOTE=Jodi]
Yes, it will, which you might keep in mind when choosing the topics you post.

I guess I can understand if you want to use the anonymity of a message board to ask all the things you wouldn’t dare ask IRL, but your personality here will be determined by the things you post here, because we don’t know you IRL. So it is completely unrealistic to expect us to give you the benefit of the doubt when you repeatedly post about creepy topics. When you do, you come across as a creep.

The only “you” who exists for us is the “you” you present here. If you don’t like our judgment of that particular “you” then change it.
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I understand what you’re saying, but the problem is that this would mean I would clog up the message board, offsetting my “creepy” side with my “normal” side - this wouldn’t be fair on anyone.

I don’t mind people emailing me to see my “normal” side.

[QUOTE=Waverly]
Then I guess I paid for the privilege of calling you a liar when I see that you are lying. I’d gladly fuck-off back to interweb abyss if you, Lib, or any other indignant twat-whistle wants to pay me off.
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OK, whatever, buddy. You know me inside & out.

We’ve got a small British shop owner who is curious about the overlapping populations of child porn collectors and rape fetishists. Crossing your mind and posting a question? Sure. Planning a research project when it is not remotely related to your field? I’m afraid that’s off the scale weird. IRL or not.

[QUOTE=CarnalK]
Planning a research project when it is not remotely related to your field? I’m afraid that’s off the scale weird. IRL or not.
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Research project!?!?!??!!

The entire debate will surely not be in excess of the equivalant of maybe a half hour of chat down the pub (or Starbucks <== look, I’m not a dinosaur).

It just plays out longer online, that’s all.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
Research project!?!?!??!!

The entire debate will surely not be in excess of the equivalant of maybe a half hour of chat down the pub (or Starbucks <== look, I’m not a dinosaur).

It just plays out longer online, that’s all.
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Well, I guess I got confused because of how often the word “research” got tossed around in that thread. Good luck with your GD threads. Hopefully no one will misjudge your weirdness, like I just did.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
I understand what you’re saying, but the problem is that this would mean I would clog up the message board, offsetting my “creepy” side with my “normal” side - this wouldn’t be fair on anyone.

I don’t mind people emailing me to see my “normal” side.
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Ha! :slight_smile: Listen, I have zero desire to e-mail you to see your normal side. Seeing as how I wouldn’t know you if I ran over you with my car, I frankly couldn’t give a shit whether you’re normal or not. And your defense that exposing the “real” you – the normal you – would “clog up the message board” is risible.

The “you” I see is the “you” you present here. I have no obligation to stir myself to investigate whether that’s the “real” you or not. In the context of this Board, that is the real you. It is the only you.

And, yeah, you come off as sort of a dirty old man.

[QUOTE=Jodi]
Ha! :slight_smile: Listen, I have zero desire to e-mail you to see your normal side. Seeing as how I wouldn’t know you if I ran over you with my car, I frankly couldn’t give a shit whether you’re normal or not. And your defense that exposing the “real” you – the normal you – would “clog up the message board” is risible.

The “you” I see is the “you” you present here. I have no obligation to stir myself to investigate whether that’s the “real” you or not. In the context of this Board, that is the real you. It is the only you.

And, yeah, you come off as sort of a dirty old man.
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I still don’t think you’re seeing my point. It would certainly clog up the message board if I tried to make threads in the quanity (per subject) that were representative of me. This would obviously clog up the board.

While I might seem to be a dirty old man on here (and I think it’s a waste of time arguing that point, one cannot argue impressions) from what I have posted, surely you see that it is impossible to differentiate between a genuine dirty old man and I (that assuming you think I really come off as a dirty old man, which I disagree with). So isn’t it fairer to give me the benefit of the doubt? There are not many dirty old men about after all.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
I have never shat in a pail, nor beyond one.
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Then how the heck do you expect us to believe that you are a sexual deviant? :wink:

Seriously for a sec, don’t sweat the small stuff here. We all get to know each other through our posts, and that obviously takes a long time, during which there may be times when the signifier and the signified pass in the night.

And no, I don’t think you are a perv – you’re just British. :stuck_out_tongue:

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
I still don’t think you’re seeing my point. It would certainly clog up the message board if I tried to make threads in the quanity (per subject) that were representative of me. This would obviously clog up the board.
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I think the idea that presenting yourself as you truly are IRL would clog up the board is so ridiculous as to be contemptible.

Look. There is only one YOU here. There is not some fake YOU and then the real, “genuine” YOU. There’s just what you post, and the impressions you leave by what you post. That’s the only YOU that exists on these Boards, in this context, in this medium. So I don’t have to look for some alternate, nicer, more normal, less “impression of a dirty old man” “YOU” because there isn’t any and apparently you believe that creating one would “clog up the boards.” :rolleyes:

No, it’s not “fairer.” I don’t owe you any courtesy that would make me think, assume, or investigate whether you are something other than what you appear to be. I don’t owe you an e-mail; I don’t owe you questions regarding the “true you”; I am not your apologist.

We will assume you are as you present yourself to be. If you don’t like that, present yourself as something else. But nobody owes it to you to look behind the persona you are creating to see if a better one exists, and nobody owes it to you to create a better persona for you.

I’m not saying you’re the biggest creep / deve / fruitcake that ever posted here. I’m not saying you’re a creep /deve / fruitcake at all. I will say that you have posted some pretty c / d/ f things; people will judge you based on what you post; and it is unreasonable to expect them not to.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
And for the record, I’m not a troll. According to Wikipedia, a troll is “someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding.”

Now fine, I’m posting messages about sensitive topics, in a way that might possibly be inflamatory (i.e. they’re not politically correct) in an established online community, but I’m not “baiting users into responding”. I am seeking discussion and yes, a fair amount of criticism, because I am open minded and recognise that my ideas are eccentric, and perhaps in large part incorrect. But they are still worth talking about civiliy, yes?
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Given the fact that you’ve said that you have problems with this message board, so you probably won’t subscribe (yes, I did see your slight change of heart today), you’re cutting this distinction mighty finely.

If you want people to think you’re not a troll, pony up your $14.95, post a few thousand posts to let people get to know you and then come back to this. We might have a different impression then. Or maybe not.

What you’re doing here is the equivalent of walking into a new job and expecting people to take your word that you are who you say you are despite behavior to the contrary. You wouldn’t do it IRL and it doesn’t fly here either.

Distinctions between your real life persona and your message board persona only make things worse. Trolls generally post things that they don’t believe in real life.

[QUOTE=Small British Shop Owner]
So isn’t it fairer to give me the benefit of the doubt? .
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No. Please go away.

I have grave doubts you are who you say you are, and you try to push your way in here like you have been posting for a long time.

So, according to your thinking, I should contact some guy on a forum who’s only pretending to be a sexual pervert and creep so that I can find out that he’s really just normal and a nice guy in real life?

Oh no you don’t! That’s how I met my current husband.

[QUOTE=DrDeth]
No. Please go away.

I have grave doubts you are who you say you are, and you try to push your way in here like you have been posting for a long time.
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Yes, I’d like you to bugger off as well.

You said in a post of yours that you had shot endangered species. Another example of weirdness IMO.

I asked you why you’d done this, I’m still waiting on a reply