Tom - The church I attend has no confessional booths, nor does it recognize the Bishop of Rome as any more than that. I belong to the Eastern Orthodoz Church, whose members are Catholic.
White slavowners raped their Negro slaves? What do you suppose Negro slaveowners did with theirs. According to the 1830 census, there were 3,375 free Negro’s in the USA that owned 12,760 Negro slaves. Furthermore, there were no slaves in this country until Anthony Johnson decided that John Casor was his slave for life, not just an indentured servant. Both were Negro’s who came from Africa as indentured servants. Anthony Johnson was the Father of American Slavery. Read all about it in SELLING POOR STEVEN, American Heritage magazine, Feb/March 1993, vol. 441.
Political correctness is just tyranny with manners.
I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history’s pocket change. Courage is history’s true currency. Charleton Heston
You know, Captain Ed, I may be white, but I am not one of your women. I neither need nor want your “protection”. I find your bilious spewing of hatred and snivelling insecurities just as offensive as the concept of rape, and given the choice, I’d rather keep company with a black man any day than listen to your racist vomit.
captin,Can you name me any white mass murderer?I can think of quite a lot?Can you think of any black men(okay One and one exception) who are known for murder?
Damp sponge? I think you’re giving him too much credit. Dry sponge, perhaps.
All this “I’m mentally superior because I’m white” bullcrap coming from someone who doesn’t even know when and where to use an apostrophe comes across quite flat, I must say.
I’m white. I’m a woman. I’ve had my honor defended MANY times by black men. I’ve had black men protect me from white guys who tried to grab me. There goes your lame ass theory right out the window.
You, like many others before you, claim to be religious in order to deceive us into buying your message of hate. You say “I’m a Catholic” then in your next breath you contradict everything it really means.
I want you to know that I would rather take one small church full of “mentally inferior” (your words, not mine) black people over a whole world full of superior, spiritually empty Catholics like you.
Your original post in the “glossary” didn’t spur me to speak, but the message above is reprehensible. If anti-white reacism is pervasive today, it’s because of people like you, saying hateful things like you just said.
You should pray to be part of the solution, NOT a contributor to the problem. AND you should pray to be forgiven.
Captain Ed, are you Catholic or Orthodox? You were probably not paying attention, but they are not the same. If you are Catholic, (Maronite, Greek, Byzantine, Chaldean, etc.) you are still bound to faithfully consider the words of the popes.
If you are Orthodox, you’re wasting your time hating blacks. You’re supposed to hate Turks.
Sheeesh! Today’s bigots can’t even get their enemies straight.
Do you know more of the situation than you are telling? Do you honestly take this “man” at face value? Please. Even if what he said is true, copyright violation is a valid reason to toss somebody, depending on how they act. Every message board has different guidelines. But most of all, I wouldn’t trust Capt. Ed if he told me the sky was blue.
Okay, now we’re back to a proper Pit thread. What were you doing, Bricker, trying to bring some rational debate into this forum? Take it back to GD where it belongs!
Krispy, yes, those numbers look about right. In 200 years of slavery (plus the 60 years that preceded slavery) a number of blacks gained their freedom, continued to live in the South, and, if they got some money together, bought slaves, themselves.
The majority were in Maryland and Virginia (where the earliest freedmen lived and where slavery was a bit less malign than deeper into the South) and in Louisiana where French cultural influence led to more manumissions and free blacks with money immigrated from the Caribbean basin.
As you point out, however, people tend to be bad to people. The great tragedy is that this country enshrined much of that behavior in Law, which has had repercussions down to the present.
What I posted was the substance of the conversation I had with him. There isn’t any more information – just my subjective belief that when he made this claim, he was telling the truth, and the objective reasoning that tells me it’s not an inherently incredible story.
It’s very believable that Captain Ed came to a board, did some cut-and-paste quotations from of his sources, identified them as such, and (given the usual reaction to such claims) was booted. Seeking a defensible reason, I can easily imagine a board op saying, “Uh… posting copyrighted material… yeah, that’s it.”
Don’t know for sure, of course. But one of my attacks on him was about his posting information that came purportedly from him, but which a little work with my search engine was found on other sites. (In fact, to be perfectly honest, I was convinced at the time that Mikey was adopting a “Racist Bastard” persona, finding some racist web sites, and wholesale copying them here.) So I called him on that, and he provided the above by way of explanation.
As I say, it’s not inherently unbelieveable or incredible.
I have to say that, in general, I have been disappointed by some folks here, and quite proud of others. Those posters who have simply branded him a racist and haven’t taken even a moment to refute his points are in substance no different than Bible fundamentalists who blindly quote Scripture rather than arguing points.
Then there are those that have said, “But he has made no points - just posted statistics and innuendo!” True, and ordinarily it’s not your responsibility to develop your opponent’s argument for him. But some of the inferences he’s making are very obvious, and to not respond to them by saying, “You haven’t made a point,” is, as I suggested elsewhere, disingenous at best.
Finally, there are those who have taken a moment to debunk his unsupportable accusations with facts, plausible alternative explanations, and good ol’ logic. To those posters - well done. I know I’m new… but it seems to me that THAT is what we ought to be about.
Krispy - It is true. Most libraries carry back issues of AMERICAN HERITAGE. Better yet, invest $6 for a copy. 1-800-777-1222. I made this the subject of a letter to the editor of a Ricmond newspaper, which printed it. This brought a call from a very nice Negro gentlemen named Stanley E. Squire Holcomb, who has established a museum devoted to slavery. He was dumbfounded to learn about it, as he had studied slavery to a great extent.
I sent him copies of the article, and also most of the pages of a book called FREE NEGRO OWNERS OF SLAVES IN THE UNITED STATES IN 1830. This is by Carter G. Woodson, a noted Negro authority on the subject. It lists the names of the negro slaveowners state by state, by county.
Some of this was enlightening. Free Negress’s owned Negro men, in many cases. In Georgetown, DC, a Negro named George Washington was a slaveowner. Some 25% of the slaveowners in Louisiana were Negro, men and women.
There is a full section of the book dealing with absentee ownership of slaves by free Negro’s. These folks would buy a shipload of slaves, and lease them out to others, white and black. Some owned hundreds in this manner.
The book was published ny the NEGRO UNIVERSITY PRESS in Westport CN. It was copyrighted in 1924, reprinted in 1968 and 1973. Ask your local library to find one for you. Ask your local school board if this will be discussed in the upcoming Black History Month.
Political correctness is just tyranny with manners.
I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history’s pocket change. Courage is history’s true currency. Charleton Heston
Well, gawwwwwwly, Gomer, where did them intelleckshally inferior niggers ever get the dadgumbed bizness ack-yoo-men to run a complimuhcated slave-owning bizness like that?
“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather
Tom said “Did it ever occur to you hate-mongers that the whites that suffer from black assaults, now, are reaping the anger that you idiots sowed for 350 years?”
I have to be careful here. I do not really side with Ed, but I can’t let that remark of Tom’s go.
The argument that current day blacks are not culpable for their actions because of past injustices is an unsound justification. That they commit crimes today because it is the natural outcome of racist society is tanamount to saying “it is society’s fault.”
This abrogates the personal responsibility which we all bear and shifts it to the ambiguous “society”. Not only does this assume that individual blacks are incabpable of making individual moral choices, it shifts the blame to the victims. Unless the numerous white victims cited by Ed were all hate mongers who had injured blacks, the retribution you allege was aimed not at the offenders, but at innocent third parties.
I believe that each of these black criminals in the study was indeed capable of making a decision regarding their actions. I doubt that the majority of them were thinking on any level that they should commit their acts of violence as retribution for crimes perpetrated by whites upon theier relatives.
Even if they were engaging in some form of racial vengeance, they were still wrong. “your people raped my great grandmother, therefore I am going to rape you.” Insert whatever race you like, you should not defend the rapist.
Someone mentioned that Orthodox Christians are not Catholic. They most certainly are. They are NOT Roman Catholic. Our creed has the phrase “…one holy catholic and apostolic church” in it. The liturgy is different. The “Kyrie Elaison, Christi Elaison” is the last vestige common to both liturgies.
The members of the congregation are mostly Serbs, Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, and Turks. For what it’s worth, I never met an Arab I didn’t like. I know they are out there, but I haven’t met any.
Ma Saalam
Political correctness is just tyranny with manners.
I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history’s pocket change. Courage is history’s true currency. Charleton Heston
How DARE you claim to speak for your generation? My history teacher is probably older than you, and he’s free of hatred. My grandfather fought all his life with the attitudes he was taught to have towards blacks- but he * knew * that what he had been taught was wrong and he won out over his conditioning, in the end.
You don’t speak for anyone but a collossally ignorant, miserably hateful, man.
Go fuck yourself, and stop polluting this board with your trash. It’s obvious your here just to lecture us; you haven’t posted anywhere on the board except to try to convince us of your superiority, both racially and as a person. No one wants to hear it. We’ll debate. We’ll argue. We’ll consider proofs. But we don’t need any lectures.
Yes, that is what we ought to be about, but some people pick their battles. Why take the time to fight such an obvious racist asshole? I mean, do people need to go through the whole idiocy of Holocaust deniers every time some moron comes along and says, “I got this info from the IHR”? (Just to use one example.)
On the one hand, I’m glad there are people who will take the time, just as I take the time for other causes when some shake their heads and ask why I bother. On the other hand, in this case, it ain’t gonna be me.
Hmmm. So is Capt. Ed saying he’s orthodox? Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but doesn’t it seem a little coincidental that our pal FormerAgent also was orthodox? Trolls beget trolls…
