Celebrity Apprentice II

Although I agree with Melissa that Brande and Annie were “coerced” against her, her reaction to the situation did not help matters at all. Instead of playing the “poor little old me” card, she should have stood up for herself better and forced her way into a more prominent role. It might not have helped in the board room since it seemed to come down to who had raised the most money so far, but at least she could have held her head up high instead of going out like a whiny spoiled child.

I thought that Jim Cramer should have gotten the last word in with Brande after he told her she wasn’t standing up for herself enough. After she said, “I’ll raise more money than anyone else”, he should have said, “Too little, too late.” If you have to be threatened to be assertive, you’re probably not really assertive.

I have it on good authority that the note said, “Doesn’t Brande look just like Shannon Tweed?”

I’m undecided on Joan’s future. The voiceover for next week said that they were down to the final five but it sure didn’t look like Joan wanted any part of it.

"Yoowa ah POKAH PLAYAH!!! AH POKAH PLAYAH!!!1!1!
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That was awesome television and an intimate glimpse into the mental machinations of a spoiled psychopathic diva and the awful wretch that spawned her. I’ll bet Joan does come back next week, though, just to Nuremberg the boardroom and tried to get Annie put to death. I would love to see both the Rivers lunatics completely ignored and marginalized at the next Red Carpet event either of them participates in. As much fun as it was to watch (and I can’t wait to play it for Mr. singular tonight - I’ve already shared the video with a dozen coworkers this morning), it was a horrible display of entitlement on the parts of both women.

That was some mighty spirited sprinting for two almost torn tendons…

Melissa’s exit interview is here. There aren’t any spoilers in it. It appears to be shot somewhat after the fact in that she is quite calm.

“I did the show for the opportunity for people to see me as I am.”

Well, yeah, we sure did.

OTOH, Annie and Brande’s freezing her out during the brainstorming really was pretty obnoxious.

Wow. This is total speculation, but given the complete change of wardrobe and “subdued” presentation, anyone else think Trump’s people waved her contract in her face saying “oh yes you will give an exit interview!”, and she Xanaxed up for the occasion?

Ding-dong, the witch is dead! One more Rivers to go and I’ll be happy. Melissa’s psycho meltdown was hilarious. “I want my shit! I’m not going back! Bring me my shit!” I was expecting her to start screaming “Mother!!!” when the two producers or crew people appeared on camera and Ivanka, from inside the board room, asked the others if they were listening.

Clint Black inspiring Jesse James to throw so many F-bombs was hilarious too, as was the deadpan look on his face when he said “Clint sucks.”

I expect either Annie vs Joan (if she shows up and doesn’t let her mouth get her fired) or Annie vs Jesse in the final. Joan was a total bitch over Melissa getting fired. As Dice said, “She’s like 56 years old!” I laughed my ass off at “You’re a pokah playah! A pokah playah! The people you associate with don’t even have last names! You’re white trash!” As if making fun of how celebrities dress at award shows was some sort of noble proffession!

“viper whores?”

Sorry. That should be “pit viper whores.”

Wow, that coda is worth viewing again over at Hulu. Joan Rivers continues to Godwinize the post-boardroom experience.

Additionally, it’s interesting to see that NBC cleaned up the video. Joan now calls Annie “trash,” nothing about her Caucasianness included. That was particularly weird. A Joan tongue-thrashing is quite something to watch.

I did forget one nugget of “joking” that may well have been more truthful than they knew.

[Trump] “Jesse, What do you think of Joan?”
[Jesse] “Joan’s an asshole.”
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I only saw the final scenes, but actually she said they’re lower than white trash (“I’ve known your kind in Vegas for 40 years!”).

I was wondering what exactly is so evil about poker players. Certainly not a field I’d want to enter but never really made any real judgments on them one way or the other. Also probably not a good idea to insult gamblers when you work in casinoes.

And did anybody have any doubts at any time that Joan would leave if her baby was fired? I wonder though if Melissa would have left if Joan had been fired.

What does “Godwinize” mean?

To make an analogy to Nazism when it’s not really relevant. Based on Godwin’s Law, a tongue in cheek internet debating observation.

The only thing that I could come up WRT “pokah playahs” was that you have to remember that Joan has been around Vegas for a looooooong time. The players of 50 years ago were probably much more likely to be influenced by or have connections to organized crime. Some stereotypes are difficult to overcome. It’s also possible that she hasn’t been following poker’s rise to the mainstream.

Or she might just be a whiny bitch.

Probably – she’s doing the show to prove she’s a separate individual with a career outside her mother’s, right?

I love it when she makes comments like that.

“Darling, your birth name is Melissa Rosenberg- your mother’s birth name was Molinsky- by taking a fictititious stage name from your famous mother and entering show business you give up all right to saying you’re doing it on your own”. Now if she was Melissa Rivers (or whatever) the pharmaceutical company executive or Melissa Rivers the 3rd grade teacher or Melissa Rivers the investment counsellor and tax lawyer (which her mother could damned sure use judging by the number of enormous financial fiascoes she’s had over the years), then you’d be making it on your own.

I haven’t been watching the whole show and just caught the end of this last night. What a pathetic meltdown. Very unclassy. And speaking of unclassy, what kind of plastic surgery has Melissa Rivers had? Her face makes her look like she is half-monkey. It’s very weird looking.

I missed the broadcast last night, but just watched it online. The ending was gold, pure gold! Whoever cast Joan and Melissa for this season’s show was brilliant. Unfortunately, if Joan doesn’t come back next week (I betcha she does) the entertainment value will plunge. I’d love to see a Joan vs. Annie finale, with some of the losing celebrities coming back to help. Until the final outburst I really thought that the axe was falling on Brande. She showed a lot of fire in defending herself and that saved her ass.

Apprentice having long since lost its new car smell and ratings and Trump being a narcissist who hates anything of his fading, he had to have been using every ounce of will in him to avoid doing a "Hoo-Wah!"scream and victory dance during the ending. I didn’t see the challenge itself but I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Melissa’s firing wasn’t an intentional “this’ll get some Best Week Ever and Talk Soup and Internet play!” business decision.

Anybody else think that the note Trump passed said the equivalent of “say I should fire Melissa”?

Absolutely. When she snapped at Trump “Let me finish!” my wife and I both knew she was toast. Trump clearly didn’t think much of her even before that (didn’t he refer to her as a “spoiled brat” when talking to Piers?