"cheating" at sex...paranoid

I think the Dope is a good thing for you unbrok3npp, so, since you have more than enough info and help already in the thread, allow me to extend a warm welcome to you and an invitation to stick around.

Still, dont you think you should change your username to brok3ninpp? :smiley:

I will definitely keep the post updated. I just need to find an easy way to get to planned parenthood(i know its already easy)

also, does anyone have an answer for my home pregnancy test question? I think that will be our easiest option until she turns 18 (soon) and we can get proper education.

Check your private messages-I sent you some info about pregnancy tests earlier.

Let me try this one more time. Home pregnancy tests will give you enough information to see a doctor. You have been advised to see a doctor regardless. Go to planned parenthood. Use an assumed name. Nobody is using Sgt Schwartz right now, so you can have that one. You will learn whether your SO is pregnant. You will know if she is pregnant. Not if she should see a dr. to find out if she really is pregnant. You both should also learn about birth control. You both will also be given one that works for you. Not is more effective than another, but one that you will use properly and reliably. The results of the home test vary and the timing may vary. You can go to the local Wal-Mart and read boxes if you really want to know, but go to Planned Parenthood. Don’t take this chance again until you are ready to be a daddy.

SSG Schwartz

What’s with all the fearmongering in this thread? Not enough people have said it, so I’ll reinforce it – the chances of you getting her pregnant with pre-ejaculate the day after her period are very, very low (not impossible, bad idea, learn from your mistakes, blah, blah, etc., but very low).

Ditto this.

Home pregnancy test are great, but Planned Parenthood can make sure you get an incredibly accurate test that is properly administered. They’ll give you the answer and advise you of your options regardless of what that answer is. They won’t judge you, they’ll keep it all confidential, and they’ll charge you according to a sliding scale (it may even be free or just a nominal fee for you).

If it works out for you and your girlfriend isn’t pregnant (and I’m hoping for you), they can hook you up with affordable birth control as well as explain how it works and the right way to use it. You don’t have to go through this again.

The other thing is that you can go by yourself. You don’t have to wait. It would be BETTER if the two of you could go, but the face that she can’t doesn’t get you off the hook. Go talk to them, tell them you are confused, ask them questions and they will give you answers and supplies. Then, whenever she is able to go, you will know what’s up and be support for her.

Right now my biggest concern is whether or not shes pregnant. So her being there is kind of mandatory for me.

No, that is incorrect. You did not read that chart correctly. Withdrawal is NOT a more effective method of birth control than male condoms, either in typical or perfect use.

From yourcite:

Perfect use of withdrawal: 4% chance of pregnancy
Perfect use of male condom: 2% chance of pregnancy

Typical use of withdrawal: 27% chance of pregnancy
Typical use of male condom: 15% chance of pregnancy

This is GQ. It’d be cool if we were giving accurate info to people without it, esp. on matters as important as this. Also, there is no way I’d be encouraging a horny teenager to consider using withdrawal as a method of birth control, even by inference. It is unlikely he will be able to implement “perfect use,” I feel safe saying.

I don’t agree with his representation of withdrawal as an effective method either, but you’re misrepresenting his position.

(underlining mine)

Whether or not it’s good advice for a seventeen year old to practice the withdrawal method, what AZCowboy is saying is factually correct, provided those statistics are correct. Perfect use of the withdrawal method (4% chance of pregnancy) is more effective that typical use of the male condom method (15% chance of pregnancy). Unfortunately, it seems a bit like comparing apples to oranges when you compare perfect use to typical use.

ok now im just confused. Im just gonna ignore all of that information. If we do anything in the future it will at least be with correct use of a condom AND the withdrawl method…AND the pill probably…

If it makes you feel any better, I had unprotected sex for about four months where our only attempt at birth control was the withdrawal method. And I never got pregnant.

I am NOT ENDORSING unprotected sex, neither am I saying that withdrawal is a preferred form of birth control. All I’m saying is that it’s very likely she’s not pregnant. Probably not very comforting to you until you actually get the results, though.

Practicing withdrawal while the woman is on the pill seems like a bit of overkill. The pill, when used correctly, is pretty reliable; plus I find that withdrawal tends to diminish the overall pleasure that can be had from sex. Both my partner and I found it rather frustrating at the time. It’s good that you plan to take this incident as a lesson, but I hope you still manage to have fun sex. Safe sex doesn’t necessarily have to be boring.

You know, I’d actually have to disagree with this. The potential for pregnancy from initial pre-ejaculatory fluid is small, but the failure rate of withdrawal as a birth control method goes up with each subsequent sex act post-ejaculation. The reason for this is that there are still live, viable sperm in the pipes which are hustled forward with the next pre-ejaculate. That he came first then went back in is decidedly more risky than the first penetration.
I would say that the risk is probably fairly low, but it’s not 0%, and that’s really all anyone can tell you. The risk is lower depending on where she’s at in her ovulatory cycle, for example if it’s the day before her period is due then for all intents and purposes it’s a pretty “safe” moment. On the other hand, if she’s at day 14 of her cycle, then your risk is much higher. Approximately 65% of women ovulate mid-cycle, and if she was at peak fertility the chances are far greater. In all honesty, there’s no way to know unless she’s tracking her ovulatory patterns which I imagine she was not. In any case, as someone pointed out, no matter what the odds, if she’s pregnant, she’s 100% pregnant.

So what I’d say as a reproductive health educator is that a healthy chunk of paranoia is a very good thing when it comes to preventing an unintended pregnancy, and while your risk here in this particular situation is probably fairly low, the first things I would advise are:

  1. Get her to a Planned Parenthood or pharmacy to see about purchasing Plan B. Depending on your age and location it may be available OTC, if you need a prescription, Planned Parenthood can assist you in this. Time is most definitely of the essence here, so do this right now. Again, the risk of pregnancy is likely low, but it’s not non-existent, and if the consequences of unintended pregnancy are great for you, then taking Plan B is worth it. Also, FWIW I’ve taken Plan B a couple times and have spoken with hundreds, if not thousands of women who have taken it over the course of four years or so. I’ve never, not once, ever heard anyone suggest the effects “lasted three months” and so far as I’m aware, that’s not really even possible. It’s just a dose of a naturally occurring hormone that delays her ovulation a couple of days and/or thins the endometrium. YMMV and IANADr. and all that.
  2. Have a good conversation with each other regarding birth control methods and, using this exact situation as a springboard, what you as a couple would do in the event of an unintended pregnancy. It’s a tough discussion, but if you’re incapable of talking about the responsibilities of sex then you should strongly re-evaluate your readiness for sex. No method of birth control is 100% effective, and if you and your partner choose to have sex, you are also choosing to face the potential for unintended pregnancy. Please, please be prepared as a couple to face this chance. It happens, it happens a lot, and it happens mostly to those who aren’t prepared for the possibility. In the capacity of my work I have conversations with women daily of all ages and all walks of life who are blindsided by the positive pregnancy test results they have just received. If you care anything about your girl, your future, and her future, please have this conversation with her.
    You sure don’t have to have a concrete answer–few people are 100% sure what they’ll do until they face the situation–but please at least start the discussion. If she does get pregnant and decides to keep the baby then you are now responsible for child support payments for the next eighteen years. On the flip side, if you’re anti-abortion, she’s not willing to carry a pregnancy to term, and you can’t stand the thought of her choosing to terminate a developing pregnancy carrying your DNA then you shouldn’t be having sex with her.

The thing people rarely mention in these conversations is that sex is supposed to be a wonderful, joyful, beautiful thing. It’s supposed to be fun. Supposed to be the greatest thing on Og’s green earth. Please take some time to take care of the responsibilities ahead of time so that next time, you and your partner can relax and enjoy yourselves.

Excellent post.

I especially agree with the “a bit of paranoia is good.” This isn’t like playing the odds at the horse track or buying a scratchoff. You lose there, and you’re out a buck or five. You play the odds here – even if they’re good – and lose, and you’re out a lot more than pocket change.

Okay, all that having been said, you’d think after five years I’d learn to read to the end of the thread before responding.

In summary, what Beaucarnea said :slight_smile:

Also, you said she was at a point in her cycle the day after she finished bleeding. The chances are her risk of pregnancy is extremely low at this point, particularly with the fact that you didn’t ejaculate in her. I would reiterate that the risk is not zero. A healthy paranoia is a very good thing when it comes to preventing pregnancy.
Just about every teenager I ever spoke with at a pregnancy counsel said they would never have sex again. As someone else stated, this really isn’t realistic. All the armies of heaven and earth have nothing on the power of teenage hormones.
Have fun, love each other, you will no matter what anyone says, but please… be safe doing it.
Planned Parenthood will not tell anyone’s parents. Her private doctor might. Please advise her that if she doesn’t want her parents to know, she should not discuss this with her family physician. Patient’s rights are patient’s rights, but I know from personal experience this often goes right out the window when the patient is a minor and the doctor knows the parents.

Oh, and speaking of paranoia. She should be taking her Folic Acid and her vitamins. Just in case she is pregnant and not willing to have an abortion. Really. Hope is not a plan.

You need to be thinking long-term as well as short term. It’s so important in life not to let short-term stress overwhelm you so that you don’t deal with the long-term. Long-term is preparing for this to happen again–so go by yourself or with a friend to planned parenthood. Frankly, what’s done is done, and all that’s left is the worrying. Your biggest concern should be not repeating this experience.

He already knows about condoms (from this thread). And yet he didn’t use one. :dubious:

Happy Fathers Day. :smiley: