You’ve been proven wrong and you just can’t handle it. I feel sorry for your SO.
So when the mayor’s investigation leads to the chief’s firing, you’ll still say I didn’t know what I was talking about.
Whatever.
And exactly how does any of that prove her wrong?
You’ve proven me wrong? How?
*Stop fucking around and skirting the issue *and show us one shred of proof that you have any clue what the SLC police had or didn’t have to work with in their investigation.
Otherwise, shut your yak about things you haven’t a clue.
The mayor launches an unprecedented investigation into an active police investigation in order to determine if everything was on the up-and-up and you still do not see the error of your grease-stained rant?!
You’re hopeless and no longer worth my time. Go check on the scrambled eggs. :rolleyes:
Proof? How about the fact they had the name, nickname, and description of the real criminal and ignored it in order to focus on a dead guy! What more proof do you want, Witch Hazel?!
BTW, apparently its enough proof for the mayor’s office to check ‘em out. Maybe you should be bitchin’ at him too!
My God! You probably don’t believe we put astronauts on the moon because they didn’t personally bring you a lunar rock!
Get a grip!
Is it possible that this investigation of the investigation is to look for ways to improve on the ways they go about doing this kind of work? Maybe they are not looking to fire anyone. Maybe they just want to be certain that best practices and strategies are being followed.
Fair enough, Jacksen. That’s the first lucid response on this thread in a while.
I still hold to the belief that the SLCPD screwed this up.
Thanks for your professional reply.
So you’re admitting your asinine comments aren’t lucid, SR?
I admit it. I lowered myself to the level of Diane the Fry Cook.
I usually try and stay on point but this putz brought out the monster within.
I…I…I’m not proud of it. I was young and needed the money…
I’m still right and she is still wrong.
That part has not (and will never) change.
Then prove it, just as she and others have asked you to do, Skid.
When you stopped being a prosecutor, did the local criminals group together and get you a watch or something, along with a card begging you to come back? I know that if I were facing possible jail time I’d certainly want someone with the kind of clear and persuasive argument skills you’ve shown in this thread sitting at the other table.
For the fourth time
Because Monty asked nicely, here’s my story:
When Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped, the SLCPD focused their investigation on Richard Ricci because he was handyman with a criminal record who had previously done work for the Smart family. This investigation resulted in Ricci being arrested on an old warrant (a practice that is perfectly legal and acceptable) and questioned about the Smart case. He denied his involvement.
Cites? Sorry. This topic and the idiots who constantly defend incompetency are not worth my time to look them up. The story was in all the papers - look it up yourself.
Ricci died in custody. Media outlets slobbered all over themselves with salacious stories about how he had “taken the location of Elizabeth Smart’s body to his grave.”
See previous paragraph for cites.
In October, Mary Katherine Smart has this epiphany about “Emanuel” being the person who kidnapped her sister. Ed Smart provides this information, including “Emanuel’s” actual identity (Brian Mitchell) to the SLCPD who promptly sit on it and do nothing except continue to investigate the corpse of Richard Ricci.
Finally, the Smart family has had enough. On the morning Elizabeth was found, the Salt Lake City Tribune leads with a story about how the SLCPD has frustrated the Smart family by ignoring Brian Mitchell and continuing to focus on Ricci. Cites? Get bent.
Oopsy.
Elizabeth Smart turns up that afternoon in a Salt Lake City suburb.
Oopsy.
Mitchell had been arrested in San Diego in February and held for 6 days. Because no lookout had been placed by the SLCPD, he was released from custody.
(Yeah, I know Shrew. "He used an alias!! You don’t know what you’re talking about!") That makes no difference. With fingerprint coding in FBI records, a competent police officer would have picked up on it. They do it every day. Although, since you’ve never seen it - you probably don’t believe it. :rolleyes: )
Oopsy.
She spent the first two months of her capture in the hills behind her parent’s residence. Apparently so well camouflaged, a force as all-powerful and all-knowing as the SLCPD couldn’t find her.
Oopsy.
She lived for a time in an apartment two blocks from a SLCPD precinct and walked the streets dressed as a some sort of Druid.
Oopsy.
The mayor of SLC has appointed a commission to conduct an investigation into the SLCPD’s screw up of this case.
I can see the response now:
“Oopsy. You didn’t prove anything! I’m still waiting for the proof!”
Tough. If this isn’t proof enough for you, let me encourage you rent yourself out as a professional defense juror. You’re their wet dream.
I’ll make you a bet. The SLCPD chief will either “retire to spend more time with his family” or be fired before one year from today.
Til then, please try and show a little smidgen of intelligence.
Okay dumb-dumb, I’ll try to make it even simpler for you (holy SHIT is this guy stupid).
Read your OP, or do I need to C&P it for you? You rant and rave about the things the SLC PD did wrong including not finding her “TWO months TWO miles from her house” (which of course has been explained).
Then you “blah blah blah’d” some more and then ended your yammering with “Chief, get your resume in order.”
Staying with me here?
I responded to your OP with this question and statement:
You then come back with your supposed experience and knowledge.
*Before I go any further, and I do hope I don’t confuse your little brain, but let me just toss back this news release regarding “her own back yard”.
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=14777&nid=5
Your experience and knowledge obviously didn’t let you know that she was bound and hidden underground, proving my point regarding your armchair investigator know-it-all attitude.*
Still following me?
Since your announcement of your experience and knowledge, I have asked you to show some proof that you have enough first hand knowledge to know what the SLC PD had to work with and what they should or should not have done differently.
I’m still waiting.
You continue to toss irrelevant bullshit that has no merit whatsoever to back your claim.
And then I wait some more.
AGAIN - PUT UP OR SHUT UP, or at least admit that you were blowing smoke out your asshole.
One last thing, if you want to insult me or flame me or even make me wince, may I suggest something other than your “fry cook” shtick. I mean really, I’ve never worked in the food business and I don’t even like to cook. I’ll pretend to be crushed if it would make you feel better though. I’m nice that way.
You haven’t said ANYTHING that hasn’t been in the local and national news 9000 times.
A-FUCKING-GAIN -
Show some proof that you have enough first hand AND INSIDE knowledge to know what the SLC PD had to work with and what they should or should not have done differently.
It’s not that hard, really.
I am not saying that the SLC PD didn’t mess up the investigation, I just want to see some smidgen of proof from you that you were not being anything more than an armchair investigator.
You obviously didn’t have enough information when you made your “TWO months TWO miles from her house” comment and I am certain that won’t the only example of you talking without knowledge.
Prove me wrong or shut up.
Diane: We both might as well give it up. Heck, that fool’s equating the media with the police!
For the third time, because you whined liked a grade-schooler:
So then you agree the police weren’t completely incompetent? Oopsy.
And as we all know, the police are responsible for all media slobbering. Oopsy.
And here is only real point you make in your stumbling about. But, did they do nothing? From what we can tell from very limited data, I’ll agree that it looks like they should have done more. How much more? Many opinions here, few facts.
And certainly the fact the family is frustrated because they want their daughter back is proof that the police are incompetent hacks. Oopsy.
And this absolutely proves the police are bumbling fools!. Oopsy.
Again, this is your only coherent point. You’re just repeating it. But it still is probably correct.
And again, if what we have heard so far is true, this is where your ignorance shines most clearly. Come to SLC some day, and I’ll take you on a little trip up some of the canyons within spitting distance of the city where you can be lost for days, while you are actively seeking rescue, not tied to a tree, and still not be found. Face it, you just have no clue here. Oopsy.
And as we all know, the police should stop and question every single person who dresses differently, demand ID, and make sure that no one walks the streets unknown. And as we all also know, those hard target searches of every outhouse, doghouse, and apartment in a two block radius are used in every case of this kind. Oopsy.
And god knows there has never been a inquiry motivated by anything other than the absolute certainty that someone screwed up bigtime. Convictions always come out of these things don’t they? Oopsy.
Actually I think this is a real possibility. I agree that it looks like mistakes were made. But at this point we don’t know much of anything for sure.
Although on your world that may be enough to convict. What color is your sky again? Oopsy.
I rest my case. :rolleyes:
I guess the world needs people like you morons, too.
The proof is there, fry cook. If you choose to ignore it, that is not my problem.
You bunch must work for the Salt Lake City Board of Tourism and Trade. They must be so proud of you.
Ya know, for the longest time I thought some of the slowest people in this nation lived in the south. I am wrong about that. SLC has them beat.
Oh, I see no one took my bet.
Skid Row:
You say you’re a lawyer. Think about what a jury would say to what you’ve asserted. They, as the posters in this thread have, would like to see some proof of your assertions. That’s all that anyone’s asking for you.
Your response is to continue to call Diane “fry cook” in an attempt to get her riled. As a lawyer, you really should realize that doesn’t constitute proof of your assertion.
So, where’s the proof?
Wow, you overwhelming rebuttal dazzles me.
And this leaves no doubt about your “education and experience”. What a maroon.