College football fans: how's your team look? -- 2011 Version

Polls out and the SEC supremacy is realized.

50% of the SEC is ranked in the top 25. 60% of the Big XII is ranked in the top 25. Might be a bit early to claim conference superiority.

1/6of the SEC is ranked in the top 2. 0% of any other conference is.

The SEC has already started beating up on itself. That’s what strength in depth does.

And this is different from every other conference…how? Is there a week in the Pac-12 or ACC where everybody wins?

The difference being a number 10 ranked PAC 12 or ACC team playing an unranked conference opponent is unlikely to be playing as good a team as the SEC team will be playing..

JSC1953, The SEC starts playing conference games earlier than the Big XII. The Big XII has played a total of 5 conference games thus far, or in other words, 5 forced losses. While the SEC has already played 13 conference games, and with similar logic, 13 forced losses.

Because the SEC teams start playing Conference games early, the number of teams in the top 25 a few weeks into the season suffers.

This often leads to snarky comments from the SEC detractors when an SEC team plays a homecoming cremepuff in late October as other conferences are only playing conference games.

This is a good time for a team to take a loss – much better than November. So, so what if you take your lumps against a conference foe in September – you can make up that ground when you play Directional Bible College next month.

Oh and BTW, GT is 5-0 wOOt! wOOt! and on a collision course with Clemson at the end of this month!!

edit: Did someone say “snarky comments from SEC detractors” :smiley:

Yeah, I couldn’t help myself. :slight_smile:

The SEC scheduling model (and ACC model) is a model that I really l like. The SEC is able to spread out their marquee matchups over the entire season, rather than just the last 8 weeks. Almost every weekend there is a “must see” game if you are CFB fan.

Look at the B1G opponents in week 4: Eastern, Central, Western Michigan, Colorado, San Diego St, La Monroe, South Dakota, North Dakota St, Wyoming, North Texas. Really no marquee matchups there.

To put a bow on this kerfuffle, Illinois suspends Jonathan Brown for 1 game.

Mississippi State is on the ropes once again. 2-3 so far. Tough losses to Auburn, LSU, and Georgia, and we still have conference games against South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, and Ole Miss. Non conference games with UAB and Tennessee-Martin. Kentucky and Ole Miss are both winnable games–winning both and the two non-conference games would let us go bowling…

On the issue of which conference is in a better position at the moment, Jeff Sagarin’s opinion is that the Big 12 is ahead:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm

Zeldar, those numbers are predictable because Big XII has played on 5 conference games thus far. Big XII plays a full round-robin, 45 conference games.

While what you say is true, I believe Sagarin’s conference rankings are based on the team rankings (his version) of all teams in the conference. If you look at the non-top-25 teams in each group, you see:



1  BIG 12             (A) =  81.28      
  29  Kansas State     A  =  79.94    4   0   
  32  Missouri         A  =  79.12    2   2   
  43  Baylor           A  =  76.71    3   1  
  49  Iowa State       A  =  73.54    3   1  
  71  Kansas           A  =  68.48    2   2 
                                     14   6                                                    

2  SOUTHEASTERN           (A) =  80.82   
  27  Georgia              A  =  80.19    3   2   
  30  Tennessee            A  =  79.89    3   1  
  54  Mississippi State    A  =  71.96    2   3   
  59  Vanderbilt           A  =  70.52    3   1   
  77  Mississippi          A  =  67.46    2   3   
  91  Kentucky             A  =  64.39    2   3   
                                         15  13


I have a rudimentary understanding of Sagarin’s rating system, as soon as the Big XII continues to cannibalize each other, their ranking will go down very quickly.

Three of their big OOC wins (OU over FSU, Baylor over TCU, UT over UCLA) have already been cheapened by the other losses by FSU, TCU and UCLA. ISU beat Iowa but Iowa has not played a conference game yet.

As a Wisconsin fan, I’ve been avoiding this thread for the first four weeks of the season because, while I thought my Badgers were good, they hadn’t played anyone decent. Well, now we can say it: the Badgers are good. Really good. They’ll probably be double digit favorites over everyone still on the schedule. Back to back roadies against MSU and OSU won’t be easy, but don’t look as tough as they once did. As long as they stay focused and Russell Wilson stays healthy, they should win out.

Now it’s time to ask who gets left out if there are multiple undefeated teams. The winner of Bama-LSU will play in the National Title game. Then it looks like you’ve got Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Stanford, and Boise competing for the other spot. Maybe even someone like Clemson if they can keep up their torrid start.

These things usually shake themselves out, but it’s going to be interesting to watch. It will be really interesting to see what happens if no SEC team goes unscathed. Does a 1-loss SEC team make it into the title game over, say, undefeated Oklahoma and Wisconsin? I don’t think they would or should, but even as an avowed SEC-hater, it’s hard to see a title game without an SEC team participating.

A playoff would be great, but I admit I do love the debates this stupid system leads to.

Damn the Big Ten Is just a huge pile of Enigma right now. Looking at the rest of the schedule I really don’t know about any of them.

Wisconsin is the best clearly, but we don’t play them this year(well at least not during the regular season :slight_smile:
Ohio state was a remarkably sad offense but they do get some big players back(although I hear there is some thing going on with that as well).

Illinois is undefeated, but I have no feel for how good they are really.

Michigan state has a great D, but the O hasn’t looked great, and Cousins so far hasn’t looked like the veteran senior I was expecting.

Nebraska is solid for sure, but that was a pretty good spanking by Wiscy, were they over-hyped big time?

Northwestern put up a good effort against Illinois, but back to not knowing how good Illinois, it doesn’t say much to me yet.

Indiana and Purdue should be wins for big blue, but as for the other 5 games, it could be 0-5 or 5-0,

I still don’t know of Notre Dame is any good, but their schedule gives them a decent shot at a BCS bowl game (where ANY decent opponent would probably crush them). I’d rather they go to a minor bowl against a team that’s closer to their level. A 27-24 win over Baylor in the Alamo Bowl would do them more good than a 63-7 shellacking from the SEC runner-up in the Orange Bowl!

As for Texas… they’re still not great, but with Garrett Gilbert gone and with a better defensive scheme, they’re no longer giving away games they SHOULD win handily. Last year, they gave away winnable games to UCLA and Iowa State- this year, they won.

They’re still not championship caliber (I fully expect the Sooners to beat them, and they could easily lose to OSU, the Aggies or both), but they won’t get slaughtered in any games this year as they did several times last year, nor will they lose to grossly inferior opponents as they did several times last year. Holiday Bowl, here we come!

Speaking of cheap shots, I only caught a bit of the Alabama/Florida game last Saturday, but there was one punt where both teams took cheap shots at both ends of the play. Florida got called for roughing the kicker and Alabama got called for tackling a guy as he was making a fair catch. Off-setting penalties and a big black mark for fair play. :wink:

Meanwhile, my Fighting Irish played their best game since about 1978, or so it seemed. Go Irish Go!