Where’s the aggressive part? You’re still not using the term correctly.
Unfortunately, this would not fall within the purvey of any H.R. department I’ve ever heard of. This type of activity, while usually vetted or at least ignored by the corporate structure has nothing to do with company policy. Such things are sometimes addressed in employee manuals in very large corporations, along with situations such as holiday gifts and holiday parties. But the kind of CCJ and other things is so vague and non-work oriented that I would be shocked to have a Doper chime in with a quote from the Employee Manual that address this.
It would go under the heading " being a decent human being " and most companies do not expect that. :rolleyes:. There is also a lot to be said for face to face dynamics. Shaming a person with atrocious social habits into being a more polite and considerate member fo the group should work but sometimes does not.
I work alone at home now. If my snack jar is low, I stand in the bathroom at the mirror and berate myself mercilessly for a few moments. Then, I write myself up, and go back to work.
I detest HR departments with such fervor for strict policies and “guidelines” for situations that they refuse to deal with employee situations that aren’t officially in the “handbook”. If people are stealing from a guy at work, does it really matter whether it’s from a little snack shack he set up, or from his wallet he keeps hanging in his jacket pocket??? Theft at work is theft at work!
What those folk with the candy jars need (bowls and drawers are a bit too open I’m afraid) is a raccoon trap. Basically you make sure the jar is built such that it has a small opening but is wider inside, with lots of candy. Folk can get their hands in, but can only withdraw their hand if they’re NOT holding a large handful (requiring a full fist) of candy…so those taking 1 or 2 pieces can manage. These pigs seem greedy enough that they’d get their handful of candy, be unable to withdraw, and refuse to drop the candy and stay stuck until discovered, shot, and turned into a nice furry cap.
Well, but what if they gnawed their hand off at the wrist to escape, huh? How would you like to have to clean up the mess, not to mention all the HR forms you’d have to fill out?
I thought of this thread just this week. One of the guys has developed the habit of coming and taking great big hands full of candy. He does this at least twice a day.
I have decided that I will let the CCJ go empty after all my current hard candy is gone.
See, there you go. Trying to control what a co-worker does with their appendages. What business is it of yours if they decide to gnaw their hand off? Sure, you could file a HZMTD-5500FTO form. ( Hazardous Materials Details- 5500 First Time Offender) What good would it do? You know the new regs. Without high definition moving real-time video documentation of the theft and subsequent amputation, your paperwork won’t get out of the HR department !
Silly.
A lot of candy jar pigs are people who have eating problems in the same way that other people have cocaine or alcohol problems. Junk food is not as addictive as heroin, but it’s quite addictive and it’s everywhere.
The compassionate thing to do would be to get rid of the community candy jar.
Some chocolate is kosher, including a lot of plain Hershey’s chocolate. So phouka can keep a jar full of Hershey’s Kisses and not worry about violating any of the laws of kashrut.
Robin
Somebody on the Dope made the extremely good point that HR departments are not there for the employees - they exist for the ass-covering purposes of management.
Toaster, I love your solution!
I too had a community candy jar that I filled with candy at my own expense. But the only people passing by would be either seeing me or my boss cause his office is at the end of the aisle, so the candy would last for several weeks. Then I got a new boss and he helped himself to candy several times a day. Asked me once if I was expensing the cost (dumb question) but otherwise never brought in any candy or offered any money. Needless to say I was refilling the jar multiple times a week. Not a problem. Even when he made hints about what candy he liked (“Hey, got anymore of that raspberry one???”), I would reply that I only bought stuff on sale. Irritating, but still not a problem. What finally did it for me was one morning he brought in pastries or something else to eat in a cake box. Didn’t offer me any. Took the box to his meeting, came back with the leftovers, offered the leftovers to a manager sitting on the other side of me, still didn’t offer me any. That means he passed by me with the box SIX times without an offer – when he first came in, when he left for his meeting, when he came back, when he offered leftovers to the other manager, when he brought them back to his office, when he left with them. Within two days my candy jar was gone. He actually thought I just ran out of candy and would be refilling the jar soon, and when I didn’t he asked, “No candy?” Guess I had my chance to throw the hint but I just said I was trying to lose weight and didn’t need to be looking at it. A few hours later he made a comment in front of another manager (“There’s no candy!”) but that manager just told him I was being good.
What upsets me more than the candy jar is that when he finally had a chance to show me some appreciation he didn’t. Made me feel like I was nothing. And I enjoyed seeing others helping themselves to my candy and he took that away from me. So I am hoping he didn’t buy my excuse about losing weight and realize what the real reason was.
I like hard candy. I kept a small jar of it on my desk. I didn’t care if people took some as a general rule, but I hated it when people complained about it. Like if I didn’t have what they wanted. Or this one super calorie-conscious woman who would bitch about candy on MY desk that I paid for because she couldn’t resist it. “I’m going to get so fat”. By having one butterscotch candy a couple times a week?
WHAT THE HELL.
Resurrecting a five year old Pit thread?
Of course. August 2012. Should have known. An entire class of new posters with no social graces.
Warning: Zombie Thread
I would have to bite my tongue to not reply, “So don’t eat it.”
The thing about not resurrecting old threads has been gradually loosening since Google got involved.
Being a complete douche about a minor faux pas by a new member seems unnecessary. Would you rather no one new ever joined and we can all just sit around reading the same people saying the same things, for ever and ever, amen?
This is an exceptionally good idea, I think.
Chimera is not a complete douche. He’s an incomplete one and in this case he’s a correct one. Joining a pit conversation 5 years old to state that you like candy is and should be a smackdown offense regardless of your membership status.
Thanks a lot, August 2012! I had hoped this thread (and my shame along with it) would disappear into the ether, but here you are dragging its dessicated corpse out into the light for all to see!
OK, here goes: PunditLisa, I am sorry I did this to you and our co-workers when I was employed there. I never did get that bag of Dove bars from Costco. I lied about that. Fact is, I am a terrible person. I have been seeking psychological help as a result of this thread though, so that’s something. I have also stopped eating candy and become born again. God bless.
My name is actually Steve, though…and I live in the same city as PunditLisa…
Say what you will, it’s no July 2012.
And neither of them can hold a candle to March, 1907 !