Daffodil5 I'm calling you out!

calm kiwi’s post seems to have been pretty much skipped over so far. Please, you guys, give it some thought! It’s making me sad to see low both you guys have sunk to insult each other. You both have valid points. And you are both off-base on some points. I don’t think either of you will get anything out of continuing this thread.

Daffodil5 your wedding sounds like it’s going to be absolutely lovely.

Zabali_Clawbane good luck! I hope you’ll come back and let us know how it goes, hopefully without needing to post another Jerry Springer thread about how the MOH ruined her friends’ wedding by being selfish and catty, as it seems she has been many times in the past!

Hi,** Kezermezer** thanks for showing your concern. I appreciate it. :slight_smile:

However, I’m not going to back down from calling Daffy out until she either shows herself to be unable to admit to wrongdoing, she shows these “facts” she claims to have based her insults in, or admits she was wrong, and backs down. An apology would be an unexpected suprise. What she did was wrong. You don’t make a statement like that and expect there to be no reprecussions.

Hey i showed concern! :slight_smile:

i did!..so did I. ooops always preview.

Tardy thanks to you too, ** calm kiwi **. :slight_smile:

One of the things this thread was lacking, a simulpost. Whoo hoo :wink:

…you know, I think the both of you are stressed out. One of you has to participate in a wedding that they don’t want to be in. Another one has to help plan the “perfect” wedding (the quotation marks are because I don’t think any wedding can be the perfect wedding. I would hate what Daffodil described, but she obviously loves it, and it’s her day. It’s all subjective).

Seriously. Lie down, both of you. Get some sleep; it’s getting late. Remember there are people at the other end of the computer screen, remember that some of the nicest people commit statuatory rape at that age, and remember that sometimes it’s the best thing to be the bigger man (or woman).

Either that or have a naked catfight to settle it, 'cause God knows that’s what this is becoming.

Umm,

You’d like to watch that, wouldn’t you? :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously, I see your point, it’s late, and yes I at least will admit to being stressed.

Yes. A stressed out chickie has to have her source of amusement. Plus I could charge admission and use the revenue to pay off my dues for the English fraternity I’m supposed to join.

Most men that I know want to marry grown-up, mature women, not “little girls”.

And after reading your Martha-Steward-on-Meth laundry list “perfect” wedding (
#13. Sacrifice perfect bull to Mithra…just in case. More presents that way!
#14. Allow for 12.627 seconds for perfect applause for ME*! and the perfect way I slaughter the perfect bull. (remember to buy diamond encrusted throat-slitting knife and plain golden bowl for the still-beating bull’s heart. Nothing tacky!)
#15. Castrate groom…just in case.
#16. 6.768 seconds for applause
) all I can say is that if I was your groom, I’d be running for my life. What a psycho. :rolleyes: Something like 15/16ths of your bizzare little me-fest deals with material crap…and you use that to prove that your wedding will be “perfect”? Call me silly, but having ham sammiches surrounded by loved ones sounds far better. What’s that line about “Better to eat a dry crust of bread with peace of mind than have a banquet in a house full of trouble”?

Y’know, the tackiness of using your laundry-list as some sort of proof that you’re going to have a “perfect” wedding because you bought the right stuff is just offensive enough that I hope you get your exactly what you’re wishing for: May it be absolutley perfect; the best day of your life…which, of course, by definintion means that it’s all downhill from there.

Fenris

*Note: there’s nothing wrong with having a traditional wedding, and of course details are needed but to assume that simply because you bought the right stuff and lots of it, it’ll be perfect? Not so much. The wedding isn’t about what you bought…or it’s not for those of us who aren’t me-monkeys.

**PSS: On preview, what Mockingbird said.

PSSS: Everyone else: Wanna laugh? Remember Lina Lamont (" “People”?! I ain’t ‘people’! I am a 'shining star in the Hollywood firma-mint. It sez so. Right there.") from Singin’ In The Rain? Read Daffy’s posts, but picture Jean Hagen doing the voice. Y’wanna talk about “perfect”. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ham sammiches, Fenris? :dubious:

Well…not at MY wedding so much (I don’t keep kosher, but I’ve got relatives who do).

Um…wouldja believe “turkey ham”?

Um…couldja substitute “PB&J sammiches”? :wink:

Fenris

PB&J would be totally cool. :slight_smile:

Fenris, don’t forget the lovely orchid and ribbon that needs to go on that diamond encrusted throat-slitting knife! If it’s not moving, it should be covered in expensive flowers!

Seriously, though, thanks for the good laugh. You’ve hit the wedding industry nail head on. As a current bride-to-be, bridesmaid, and maid of honor all at the same time (marital hat trick!), it was much needed and appreciated.

And pass the ham sammiches. :slight_smile:

You both really really scare me.

LOL ** Fenris, Desmostylus, and Slice ** :smiley: Thanks guys, I did need a laugh.

Ok, back to venting my outraged ire re:“Daffy dearest’s” posts.

** Daffodil5 ** You have slung plenty of mud and shit at not only me, but my husband as well. This is considered bad form, because the spouses of SDMB posters are not usually there. Not only that, but it tends to really irk people to have derision leveled at their SO.

Here are many of the things you have said against me, and my husband.

Your first misinformed statement about me was this. "You’re thirty-one, you should be mature enough not to care who your husband walks next to for a few minutes. " I have stated more than once that I’m 30. I have also stated that the reason I’m upset is because my spouse is experiencing pain due to the fact that his abuser is up to her old tricks.

Your next gem was this: “You, on the other hand, were willing to promise to obey (Why? It can easily be cut out of the service), even though you knew you wouldn’t. Saying that you redefined the meaning is just silly, the word has a dictionary definition and I think a bride sullies her vows by saying things she doesn’t mean. Your husband might have known the code, but what about the witnesses and congregation? You lied to them.” Where to start on this one? Firstly you sneered at another person’s solution to a tough situation. Secondly, you passed judgement not only on the misperception that anyone’s vows were “sullied” but that we lied to anyone. I stated that we told the witnesses what the code was, there was no “congregation”. I did not add, but will now, that the judge also heard us telling the witnesses this, and did not object.

Then you allege that my husband is a criminal. “Hmmm. So he was 17/18, and she was 14, are those numbers right? That’s statutory rape in some states.” This is still up to interpretation.

You yourself stated “Yup, I skimmed your long-winded post<snip>” Bolding mine. Skimming is not reading a post fully, and yet you claim to have full comprehension of my words? snort You’re no superior intellect by your own demonstration.

You show an astounding ability to mix up facts, yet you feel comfortable sneering at someone anyway.

You like to think you’re “making a case” against me, but you are really showing how scatter brained you are, as demonstrated by the fact that you not only stated that it was the bride who was physically abusive, (that’s attributed to the MOH in my posts) but that it was MY MIL who did not tell the minister she would not vow to obey. (It was the groom’s mother who did this.) You even have the temerity to make this assertion at one point: “I comprehended your situation well enough to tell you the truth, which you obviously don’t want to hear. I occasionally even quoted your own words back to you, because they helped to strengthen my points.” Your posts only stengthened the obvious inferrance, that being that you did not fully comprehend what was said, and that you were only posting things to aggravate, and harm.
Then you’re back to slinging stuff with this: “Also, why were you in such a scurry to get married that you couldn’t even take a moment to discuss the ceremony with the JOP? Pregnancy or fear that the first grey hair would appear before you got down the aisle that first time?” I explained why a meeting with the JOP was not possible, also that we wanted to elope. You plucked the “pregnancy” myth from the ether, merely to be snide and hurtful. I will admit to having a few Celtic silver hairs. I’ve had them since I was 13. I’m proud of them. They enhance my beauty. Again, you probed your phobias for this one, and flung it merely to wound.

You continue to lead the OP off topic in your dizzying hijack with this: “Why would I read your previous posts? The shrill harpy-ness of the ones in this thread give me no desire to know you any better.” I had advised you to veiw my previous posting history because that is how things are done here. If you are going to make a claim such as the poster is a “harpy” then you had better be able to show this indication through the member’s posts. I haven’t been around here long, yet I can grasp this nuance of board culture.

You continue your insults with: “I do wonder why you were in such a hurry to marry if you weren’t pregnant. It was fear of getting so old you’d need a walker to get down that aisle, huh?”
I have rhuemathoid arthritis, I was diagonosed with it at the age of 9. Even so, I participated in cross country in High School. (Long distance running, 2 mile races for the girls, 3 plus for the boys.) I covered 589 miles in 4 months working out 5 days a week, twice on Mondays. Can you say you have done such a thing? Can you say you’d have the determination, belief in self, and strength to do so if you had arthritis?

You call the fact that we eloped, and had a JOP who was a friend of my husband’s family “hasty half-assed approach to finding an officiant.” We already know what your idea of a wedding is, why do you think it’s socially acceptable to sneer at someone else’s idea of a wedding? Why do you think this statement of yours is the only truth? “It’s wrong to get married in a rush, which she admits that she did.”

Isn’t the important thing the “pledging of trothes”? Not everyone wants to wait to save the money to have an elaborate ceremony to pledge to each other. Some want to pledge now, and hold a big party to commerate the fact later. We wanted this, and so we eloped.

Then you come forth with this “sardonically witty” :dubious: intuition. “Your husband only has to be “subjected” to the moh for a few minutes. Is he another shivering coward, or is the problem really yours. Don’t worry, sweetie, I don’t think she can steal him away in one short day, unless you’re a total bitch. Hmmm…” That jab at my husband was uncalled for.I made no hostile moves towards your “light-o-love”, don’t you dare to sully him with your suppostions again you brazen bitchy creature!

You assert that “No, I’m not trying to pick a fight” yet you continue to spew forth things like this: “As I said before, you’re jealous that you’re not the maid of honor.” No where did I state that this was a thing that angered me. I stated that I wished that the bride would listen to her fiance, and follow his idea which was to have 2 bride’s maids/MOH and 2 best men. I even stated that my husband and I don’t care who goes down the aisle first. Our concern is that the ceremony occur without the current MOH psychologically abusing Mr. Clawbane.

If you aren’t trying to pick a fight, why do you keep spouting things like: " What abuse, walking her down the aisle? If she goes nuts and beats him up in the middle of the church, then maybe you were right. Until then, you’re making a big issue over nothing." Who are you to determine the comfort level of another being? **He has said it bothers/hurts him, that’s enough authentication for most rational beings! **

You claim the things you said against me are “based on fact”. I submit however, that they are merely you’re deformed opinions, and that you have no actual way to prove them WITH SOLID FACT. You stated at one point: “I’m still waiting for you to read all of my posts. I provided a list of why the insults were based in fact, it’s upthread a bit.” The post in question has no actual facts, only nasty insinuations: “You are angry at the bride for not lying to the original minister about whether she planned to say obey or not. You have stated repeatedly that you can’t understand why the bride won’t give in and let you be a 2nd maid of honor (the happy couple normally gets to plan their wedding party). You can’t trust your husband to take care of himself.”

Where are the facts to support these foul allegations? I clarified my position on the minister fiasco. I have stated that I think it’s not nice of the bride to ignore not only the groom, but the best man, and the maid of honor who have all said they are not comfortable with how SHE wants to do things. I think that you had a Freudian slip with the “trust my husband to take care of himself” jab. I think you have problems with being a control freak, and so you see these flaws in others. I think you have to constantly lecture yourself NOT to try to exert control over your fiance, because you know it will scare him off. Nowhere in any of my posts has it been even hinted at as a flaw of mine, yet you blithely make the assertion anyway.

Finally I will point out that ** Daffodil5 ** was called on bad board manners by other posters and she has not apologized to them either. She seems to lack the ability to “lose power” and admit wrong doing and apologize. She has proven to have no social graces at all. :rolleyes:

Mommmieeeeee! I no wanna get married anymore! :eek:

Anecdotally, every woman I’ve met who had this so-called “perfect” wedding ended up divorced in about 5 years. But hey, my parents make a good living off people like Daffodil5, so I can’t complain.

DeadlyAccurate, married 9+ years, cheap wedding, borrowed dress. Can’t remember a damn thing about a party 9 years ago, either.

I’m eagerly awaiting Daffodil5’s entry into the Hall of Fame.

I have nothing to apologize for. My post that you quoted from does prove that you are a harpy and a bitch (the only insults that I recall throwing at you), even if you believe it doesn’t. I’d like to add that I’m amazed that you’re angry at the moh for leaving a restaurant when you walked in, which was probably the quietest and most graceful way for her to handle the situation. My other posts do show that your husband could have been put in jail for statutory rape, if not for the mercy that the moh has shown. BTW, saying that you know she won’t press charges because she wants her mother to believe she’s still a virgin is very disturbing. If the only time she had sex was actually statutory rape, then how could anyone judge her on that (not that I believe women should be judged on their virginity, but some religions believe that, they make an exception for rape though).

I can’t believe you’re still trying to control that poor bride’s wedding. If she and the groom really disagree on the attendants, let him handle it. Just as you should let your husband handle whether or not he should be in the wedding party. How can you claim that I’m a control freak when you keep posting about the people you want to control and I’ve talked about the people that I have helping and offering input on my wedding. You have claimed that the two of you are only in the wedding to help out the bride and groom, but if you’re spending your time haranguing them about how you’d like the wedding to be, then, for the last time, ** let me urge you to drop out of the wedding**. I don’t really have much else to say to you. What can you say to a woman after you’ve proven that her husband was a hair’s breadth from jail and she just comes back and posts even more venom against his victim (mixed in with that tangled post that’s almost as incoherent as your first post, which, btw, some people have called you on, and you haven’t apologized for).

DeadlyAccurate, you’ve said something that you know I can’t defend against for 5 years (we’ve already been together for 4, just not married yet). I will say that my parents, and my fiance’s parents have each been together for 30+ years, so that increases our odds.