Dear kanicbird:

The God you worship, kanicbird, is a corrupt, vile, sociopathic, evil, diseased, sadistic monster worthy only of contempt. Fuck your God.

And he loves you.
What does that say about you?

Mr. Logic meets Mr. Metaphor.

Who loves me? The God kanicbird worships? Not likely, as he’s imaginary. Plus, if he did exist, love is not something he’s ever shown.

When did I turn into Der Trihs?

Or perhaps you mean kanic himself loves me. I find that unlikely; certainly he does not act lovingly by any definition I recognize as valid.

The abuser may well love his victim. It does not obligate the victim to love or worship his abuser.

Actually I’d say that no abuser loves his victim, by my definition of love. Love is the state of mind in which the well-being and happiness of another person are essential to your own peace of mind. Love and abuse are incompatible, because one who truly loves another simply can’t abide the thought of the beloved’s suffering needlessly.

Soul Ties? Wasn’t that a sitcom on NBC back in the '80s starring Michael J. Fox?

Well, duh. Where else are we going to store it for those times when we need to fertilize eggs but our men are at war?

No, no, no. You don’t understand at all. You can’t repair a stolen soul. You can only temporarily patch it. The empty, sucking soul-hole will degrade the new stolen replacement soul, so eventually you need to steal another one.

What are the charges you bring against Lord Jesus from which you make this claim?

I think I saw a documentary on how to do it once. The abuser meets up with the one being abused in some desolate place. They then fight with swords until the abuser manages to cut off the abused’s head. At that point there is an atmospheric disturbance while the soul gets transferred. All this occurs while Queen plays in the background.

There can only be one, however, so this cannot serve as an explanation for sexual abuse generally.

Ooh. I think I’d go see Headless Sex Offender play.

Maybe that he is a corrupt, vile, sociopathic, evil, diseased, sadistic monster worthy only of contempt] If you need more, just read the Bible, if fully explains what an awful monster this god guy is.

Oh, I’ll grant that Jesus is a nice enough fellow. If I drank beer I’d have a beer with him, except that he’s all dead & stuff.

The God of the Old Testament is the vile monster; the best thing you can say about him is that he’s not as bad as Wotan. If you insist that Yahweh & Jesus are identical, then I have to lay the former’s numberless crimes at the latter’s feet.

Skald, Jesus and God are one in the same.

So obviously you can’t bring charges against him/them, because they’re mentally incompetent to stand trial, what with the severe multiple personality disorder and everything.

God wins again!

He asked about Jesus - not God/Jehovah/Yawah (never got the distinction).

As has been stated, Jesus and God are one in the same, with a little Holy Spirit thrown in.

Jesus is Jesus, and the Old Testament God is Jesus on a bender?

I answered kanic’s question, noting that I haven’t a problem with Jesus until he is conflated with Yahweh, something not all Christians believe on.

It hardly matters. Jesus is only vaguely historical, and the vast majority of what he “know” of him has no more factual basis than the adventures of Aslan. Yahweh is entirely fictional.

So in the Garden of Gethsemene, on the night on which he was betrayed, he was begging himself to be released from the torment and murder he himself had arranged for himself but finally agreed to suppress his own preferences in favor of his own plan?

God offered himself up as a sacrifice to himself so that he could find it in his heart to forgive his creations for doing what he designed them to do.