Count me in on the group who thinks Quinn was tailing Dexter. Happened right after Dex threatened him and he definitely doesn’t like being on the short end of the stick. If he had been following Farrow he wouldn’t have been so upset about finding Dex had left and would have continued his surveilance of said scumbag.
Nice job again of acting by John Lithgow. The scene with the deer - superb. So many facets to his character. Starting to see the control issues that I predicted was going on with the children. “Don’t give them a choice.” Can’t imagine the use for the coffin. Very strange.
Don’t think we’ve seen any real remorse from Dexter before. He’s definitely feeling pretty awful over his “innocent” offing. Not trying to justify himself. And for once Dear Ol’ Dad had nothing to say.
My daughter offered the observation that Dex has tremendous control over his temper. The more angry he gets the more in control he seems. Definitely not so for Trinity. That boy is all over the place.
Is it just me, or was it just off the wall for a sailing club to go on a camping trip on motor boats? Loved Dex’s fireside “ghost story”. That would certainly cause a few nightmares.
Oh yeah, good save by other camp-out dad, that was hilarious. I wondered about the “sailing” club myself. I guess they’re learning the basics of boating before they move onto rigging…yeah that’s weak wankery. heh, wankery.
I think he did do that in one instance. Not 100% sure though. I don’t have an episode number for it either.
But this last kill did seem kind of rushed. I had a feeling Dexter was going to end up killing an innocent man.
The coffin thing is obvious guys. He’s a vampire!
Yeah, Dexter’s released people before. In S1E7, Dexter is called to a scene and recognizes the knife work on the victim. During a flashback we see that Dexter released teen killer Jeremy Downs after Downs claimed that he was raped by his victim. Dex had him against a wall though, not saran wrapped to a table.
Of course, realizing that Jeremy has killed again, Dexter pursues him. At some point during the ep he decides to help Jeremy the same way Harry helped him but he is too late, Jeremy committed suicide while in custody.
Also, S2E1, Dexter fails to kill the owner of a voodoo shop, Jimmy Sensio. I the dude is blind though so it’s not the issue that it could be. As far as we know, Sensio skipped town with all his body parts attached.
But we’ve seen him in sunlight and he doesn’t even sparkle!
As for the camp out, I really expected Dex to get back to find Cody had woken up while he was gone, freaked out, and had all the other dads up and in a commotion. Which of course would then lead to Rita acting like a “bitch” again, even though it would be completely justified.
That’s because Lithgow is huge. He’s 6’4". Hall is supposedly 5’10 or 10.5". In scenes with Deb and Dexter, she appears to be close to the same height as him, within an inch or two.
Rita has always been a grating harpy, always calling Dexter while he’s in the middle of some mass murder investigation with some trivial concern or other. Just because she has real cause for concern now doesn’t make her any less grating. I’ve wanted to kill her a few times myself. Now her daughter is becoming just as annoying.
My favorite Dexter voiceover line is from season 2, when Deb moved in with him and kept messing up his apartment and finishing his orange juice. “I will not kill my sister, I will not kill my sister.”
Can someone please explain the timeline of Trinity’s murders? Does he do it every year, every three years, or what? He supposed has 30 or so victims, killed 3 at a time (well, within a short period of time) before moving on. Over how many years? Always in a different city each time, until now, according to Lundy.
The 11/15 episode was pretty tight, except for the LaGuerta-Angel stuff.
I don’t quite see why the reporter would think the DNA leaflet in Quinn’s apartment was anything special. Cops are supposed to be familiar with that stuff – it’s a bit of a leap for her to tie it to a particular case. What would she be working on anyway? The vacation killers are taken care of. She wouldn’t know about Trinity or that there’s even a serial killer on the loose. Does she think there’s a big story in the Lundy/Deb shooting or is she just fishing?
I like where they’re going with Rita, because I’d like Dexter to see her as a real person, with a past, with flaws, rather than this angel person who is somehow “saving” him from himself. Any chance that the guy is more than just hot for Rita? That’d be too much, wouldn’t it?
I also liked Lithgow losing it and imposing himself on strangers in the coffee shop. That was unexpected, and pretty cool.
I liked this episode too- even the La Guerta/Angel part- the collapsing table was just awesome. Loved the whole Vince/Half-Naked Debra scene- comic gold as well.
I did not see the suicide attempt coming, was a good twist.
The big question is who shot Lundy & Deb though- if it wasn’t Trinity, and Anton seems like he’s much bigger than Vince- my next thought goes to Trinity’s son- maybe he earned that Mustang?
AuntiePam, it tracked for me that Christie was able to connect the DNA sweep w/ Trinity in light of what Quinn has leaked to her. Christie already wrote that article about Lundy being back in Miami after Quinn mentioned Trinity. She was still fishing when she talked to Deb anyway, feels plausible enough to me. I too loved T’s freak-out, Jesus tap dancing Christ, that was something else.
I’m confused as to why the rest of MMHomicide didn’t know what Lundy and Deb were investigating. Plotwise, I can see that it makes sense but realistically it seems like someone would have asked what the fric and frak Lundy was looking into while he loitered around the department. I suppose it’s a moot point though.
It’s good to see Deb reaping some accolades for her investigative skills. Yay Deb! Loved the back seat detecting, complete with charades.
Is anyone else annoyed by the “downward angle” angle? The trajectory of Deb’s wounds is a worthy inquiry, in fact, it rather seems like someone would have thought of it sooner, 'spose they were busy trying to bag the Vacation Murderers though.
The fact that Deb’s wounds are level is hardly conclusive proof that Trinity is not the shooter. Deb had her back to the shooter, for all she knows, he could have taken a rest on a car. After all, the shooter probably wasn’t all that close to Deb and Lundy or Ludny would have perked up a lot sooner. The only good thing about that silly plot point is that Deb can be on the case.
I’m starting to wonder if the shooting was just a mugging or random violence because I just can’t think of a short perpetrator. I really don’t think it was Trinity’s son but hell, Smokinjbc, that’s miles better than any theory I’ve come up with.
I hope Rita starts knocking boots with the neighbor and that Dex finds out but doesn’t give a shit. It would keep her busy after all. Yoga my ass.
I was positive about two things and rolling my eyes at the speculation otherwise: Trinity shot Deb & Lundy and Quinn was tailing Dexter at the bar. Looks like I have to eat crow on teh first one, so even though I’m still positive that Quinn was tailing Dexter, I have to concede that he might not have been.
Dexter has always seen her as a real person with a past and flaws. That was his primary motivation for hooking up with her in the first place: she was an abused wife whose husband repeatedly raped her. That was the great thing about Rita for Dexter, that she was emotionally closed off and completely uninterested in sex. Dexter’s soul mate. It wasn’t until last season that Rita even wanted to have sex with Dexter, who was very uncomfortable about the whole thing.
I guess I kinda sorta see what you mean about Dexter putting Rita up on the saviour pedestal, but not really. Could you walk me through it?
Random DNA testing at checkpoints seems like a pretty absurd plot point, doesn’t it? Both legally and logistically - it’s gotta more than some vacation day’s worth to test thousands or tens of thousands of DNA samples.
It sounded to me like Masuka said that Deb’s shooter was only standing 5 feet away.
In an open parking lot in the middle of the night, away from the road, with two people facing opposite directions from one another, how does a wannabe assassin sneak up to five feet away to shoot someone?
He did. Deb then moved about 10’ away for the demo. :smack:
Why was I getting the feeling that maybe Christie is the shooter of Lundy and Deb? Times are tough for a reporter after all (they mentioned it several times in the episode).
I’d like to, but it was a half-formed thought and I was sorta hoping you guys would help me out.
Part of it is that Dexter is always so worried about how he behaves around Rita, and how she perceives him. He’s so critical of himself, so watchful, that he doesn’t consider that Rita might not be the perfect wife, even though he’s trying to be the perfect husband.
Maybe it’s a holdover attitude from the 50’s, but I was ticked at Rita a couple episodes ago when Dex came home from a long day at work and she was immediately after him to do this and that, without giving him even a chance to grab a beer from the fridge. A Dex who didn’t have his wife on a pedestal would have grabbed the beer and told her to chill out for a second. Dex thinks any problems in the marriage are going to be his fault – he doesn’t see how demanding she is. The bitch just won’t back off and he doesn’t react, because he thinks it’s all on him.
I don’t think he puts her on a pedestal so much that he’s afraid she’ll find out who he really is if he doesn’t remain calm and aloof and detached. And he’s also just unpracticed at close interpersonal relationships so that he’s more accomodating than confrontational, assuming the other person has some reason to act demanding in the way that they do.
Oh, okay. It’s not that Dexter sees Rita as perfect, it’s just that he believes she can do no wrong. Big difference. It’s like he’s the stereotypical Nice Guy.
Yeah, I agree with you. He does kind of put Rita on a pedestal. In fairness, though, he puts everyone on a pedestal. When has he ever called out anyone on unacceptable behavior? Look at Quinn taking cash; Dexter tried (albeit ineffectively) to convey to Quinn that he truly did not care, that Quinn could do whatever he liked. He was a constant wallflower to Doakes’ antagonism back in the first couple seasons.
Dexter kind of has to play the Nice Guy role to cover his tracks. Nothing can ever be the other person’s fault. He can’t even draw any attention to himself, much less draw a line in the sand.
I didn’t really think of Dexter in this light before. Kind of a bummer, considering how little I respect Nice Guys. Oh well, at least he has a good reason for letting everyone (especially Rita) walk all over him. Inasmuch as “gets to keep murdering” is a “good” reason.
I wondered about the “sailing” club myself. I guess they’re learning the basics of boating before they move onto rigging…yeah that’s weak wankery. heh, wankery.