Diogenes the Cynic gets piled on by Snakespirit, milroyj, and Starving Artist? What is this, Attack of the Second-Stringers Week?
This whole thread reads like the SDMB equivalent of Batman being ambushed by two toddlers and a drunk bum. I’ll let y’all argue over who’s the drunk bum. 
See, this board is so fucking biased to the right it isn’t funny.
Damn, jung! Remember when I expressed amazement that someone as intelligent as you apparently are could be wrong in every single thing you post? Now I’m really going to have to revise my estimation of your intelligence. You can’t even seem to get it right even when it’s in black and white in front of you. Go back and read the the things I’ve said in this thread. I’d say if there’s a toddler involved here it would be you (with honorable mention of elucidator as the drunk, given his chipper post above).
Thanks for that, Doc. I was actually going to write a Lib style post about the difference between the modern definition of “cynicism” Vs. the classical philosophical model, but rather than bore anyone, I’ll just suggest clicking on your link to read about the original Dio and if anyone still cares, they can follow the corresponding link to the classical definition of Cynicism.
’lucy, yeah, I should have known I was stepping in shit when I went to the gun thing. I guess I better take my medicine. Some people get awfully upset about that issue. Damned if I know why. I don’t even want to take anyone’s guns away from them (not that an outright ban would ever be logistically feasible even if there were the political or popular will for it which there never, ever will be). Going to “penis” card was about as smart as sticking my own pecker in a beehive, though.
That’s ok, I’ll survive it. It’s not my first pitting, won’t be my last.
The most annoying thing about getting pitted is that every time you respond, you send the fucking thing to the top of the page again. But if you don’t respond, they’ll think you’re a pussy. Oh well, back to the top.
I’ve gotta defend Starving Artist on this one. He came in here to stick up for me. It was a nice thing for him to do considering we’re usually on opposite sides of the field. His politics may be diseased (;)), but he’s shown me that he has a pretty good heart and that he can look past political disagreements and still get along with someone. He definitely doesn’t belong in the same sentence as milroyj.
Thanks, Dio. I appreciate it. 
Pretty apposite in the case of this particular thread and the penis jokes which precipitated it.
Anytime. Now enough of this mushy stuff. We’ve got an election to fight about.
Yeah, well, you are what you eat, you know?
Snakespirit, most of us have known DtC for a long time and our opinions of him were formed before you were an irritant in Cecil’s eye. He is neither a phony nor a liar. He is opinionated and tenacious. He knows how to distinguish between science and pseudo-science. He clearly differentiates between fact and opinion. When he claims that something is a fact, he is able to produce a cite.
That sometimes infuriates people who disagree with him, especially if they are very controlling and mean-spirited. So they give their negative opinions of him in the Pit and make accusations as if they were facts. Then they end up looking foolish and DtC wins another round.
If I were not Zoe, I should wish to be Diogenes.
I really wish that people would stop providing him with these opportunities.
OK, I’ll give you one for a ‘good line.’ It was even funny, I think. There, how’s that.
As for a cite…
Let’s say I trashed you in a post and brought it up that I did so in order to explain your vengeful behaviour. You shut up, knowing I’m right, and hoping to hell that I don’t go farther and embarass me (you). Then someone totally uncassociated with the matter asks for a cite - out of what, curiosity? What would you want me to do?
Now if Marley asks for a cite, I’d be glad to comply. But he didn’t. He’s really a nice sort of guy and I’m not a big green meanie.
Chops, this isn’t your business, let it go. I’m going to respect Marley’s choice, which is to take it no further.
S¬
Snake, you’ve accused someone of being biased against you because you won an argument. I (and Diogenes, apparently) misread this as applying to Diogenes, but apparently it applies to Marley23. Here’s your original quote:
Can you back that up with proof that you won some argument and that Marley has acted as if he’s having some kind of vendetta against you ever since? Otherwise, it looks like a statement of ‘fact’ without any support, for the purpose of trashing a fellow poster - the exact thing you’re accusing Dio of. That goes to your credibility on the SDMB, and you should be keen to defend this. You’re certainly right that you’re under no strict obligation to provide a cite, but it’s in your interests to do so.
I am what I am, chops, and my integrity is more important to me than your opinion.
For the last time: NO.
I’m merely asking that you prove your integrity. But whatever.
I’d suggest letting it go too, lambchops. I don’t know what Snakespirit’s beef was with Marley but enough has been posted in this thread that people can pretty much understand Snake’s beef with me and decide for themselves if it’s legitimate. It looks like pretty much anyone who cares has already decided. Snake may even have had a bit a legit gripe against me. I was kind of a dick to gun owners. I’m not even pissed at him any more. At this point, I hope you’ll understand if I’d rather not stretch out a pit thread with my name on it any longer than necessary. We’ll see Snake again, I’m sure.
I questioned his insistence on trusting Sun Myung Moon’s publications and said he was lazy when he refused to look at a cited web article (‘I refuse to reconfigure my computer to accept cookies, and I refuse to make any effort to view this article - instead I will belittle you for using it’). Apparently I’m an ASS for ASSuming he was too lazy to read it when the real reason is that he’s a jagoff.
And since DC is still saying he originally asked for “proposed legislation”
When he was shown Senator Feinsteins quote he changed his request to proposed legislation, then introduced legislation, what is he saying now? Oh yes, he’s denying that feinstein’s latest applies.
Fact is Senator Feinstein FAVORS AN ALL-OUT BAN ON FIREARMS. Ten years ago she said so, ON TV! Since then she has been proposing the most stringent, restrictive legislation she believes she can get away with.
Just the facts, Ma`am.
Lemme get this straight. You have an opportunity to show the world (ok, the SDMB) that you won an argument, and yet you refuse to do so, on what? On principle? Oh puleeeeeeease. This is not a court of law, and if you “plead the fifth”, we’re all gonna assume you’re full of shit. Well, I am. I can’t speak for everyone else. Though, if I were a betting man…
You know what, dude, when I talk about legislators “favoring” things, I assume it goes without saying that I’m talking about legislation, not what some one said ten years ago on 60 Minutes. There is no legislative movement for a ban on guns. That’s what matters. Who gives a shit about what they think personally?
Well you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Marley, but are you sure you want to bring this up again? You escription above is a bit… fabricated… I was giving you an easy out, but you don’t have to take it.
Let’s not hijack this thread to do it, though.
Evidently you still have some hard feelings about it. I don’t. If you want to debate this, either let’s go back to the original thread or you can start a new one.
Don’t forget to invite me, and lamchops would like to see as well.