But the outcome of an Olympic event like figure skating or gymnastics is uncertain to everyone including the participants, until the judges wave their little placards.
Right. A routine isn’t a script. They don’t script out that stumble on the quadruple camel or the the perfect 10. The outcome isn’t predetermined which is the important part. Pro wrestling isn’t strictly speaking scripted. Every move isn’t choreographed. It’s mostly improv in the moment but the story arc of the fight is outlined before the match.
Remind me not to buy a car from either you or that guy you know.
Well, I could never work a job in sales, it’s not my cuppa. And the guy I know who sold cars for a time insists that he never met an honest car salesman. The job is designed to bring out whatever dishonesty lurks.
Dishonest people very often claim – and sometimes seem to think – that everyone else is also dishonest.
When i was a young actuary, and me and all my colleagues were talking the exam that covered interest and loans and stuff, we all checked the numbers when we got loans for cars and houses. And i think every single person found an issue with their car loan. “Oh, you didn’t qualify for the advertised rate for the full value of the loan.” " oops, we included this thing you said you didn’t want. " " Oops, we calculated the monthly payment based on list price, not the price we just agreed on. "
Not a single person reported any issues with a mortgage. I matched the bank’s number to the penny.
I think some fields attract more or less honest employees.
I agree that that’s true. I just doubt that there are fields (other than the fields of theft/scamming) that have no honest people in them.
I don’t know whether the car-buying situation is complicated enough that honest errors are also common.
I am 100% certain that “she” (never named) didn’t make an error when she used the list price. That anecdote is mine. (The other two were from friends.)
I certainly never meant that they’re all honest!
What is an example of mixed emotions? Seeing your mother-in-law drive off a cliff… in your new Mercedes.
Does “doesn’t fit in my garage, not the kind of vehicle i want?” Count as “infrastructure”?
I mean, I’m going to resell it immediately to one of his fans….
Oh, yeah, that’s true. I could do that.
That is against the law in some states and a civil liability in others, not to mention he may well hurt himself or others. While the car buyer can sell the cars back. Not to mention many states have “cooling off periods”. Not that same at all.
Yes. Infrastructure was the catch all for various physical reasons to turn down the vehicle from the get go - won’t fit in garage, no storage at residence, no sufficiently high power lines at home without additions and on and on and on. Mostly to differentiate it between the two other Hell No answers of aesthetics and refusal to be associated with Musk.
@Maserschmidt I mean, feel free, but the point was to get an assessment of what the vehicle was worth to you as a vehicle despite it’s (many, many) flaws. Of course, buying it low and hoping to resell it later (perhaps much, much later like DeLoreans) is fully valid.
Of course, now I can’t help but see you as a CyberTruck SCALPER. 
Allegedly, Denny McLain fed Mickey Mantle some meatballs at the end of one season (and the end of Mick’s career) when the pennant had already been sewn up and Mick needed 1 to pass Jimmie Foxx on the all-time HR list. Article.
This happened on 9/19/1968. My brother spoke with the Tiger’s catcher, Jim Price, several decades after the fact. Price told him the story and gave some details. Price said he whispered to Mantle behind the ump’s back that McLain was going to lay one in there, but Mantle didn’t believe him and let the first one go. He fouled the second pitch off, then hit the third into the upper deck.
According to Price, the next batter, Joe Pepitone, motioned to McLain for a similar gift and McLain only laughed.
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I need more options. For one thing, judging by a fast look at the picture I very much doubt I could see out of the thing. For another, if I can buy it for, say, less than $100 and immediately resell it for significantly more than enough to cover the taxes and temporary loss of benefits, then I’d take it; but not otherwise. I don’t have the money, I think it’s ugly, I don’t like Musk, and I’m highly suspicious of its reliability – I wouldn’t buy a brand new Weird Vehicle the first year it came out even if I had the money.
Heh, you should probably pick all three of the “not even if you gave it to me” answers. Aesthetic issues (check), Elon Musk issues (check), and reliability (the infrastructure/physical catch all).
Really, it wasn’t a poll about gaming the system, just what it’s personal value would be for you. For that matter, I was even being generous (or so I thought) by assuming the current build quality issues (huge gaps in body panels and the like) would be resolved.
I even left out the likely issue of it being painfully expensive to insure, which I brought up in a different thread. Mostly, I wanted people’s honest evaluations of what the features of the vehicle, MINUS all the aesthetic, social, poor visibility and over-sized nature of the vehicle resulted in as a fair price, especially since informed speculation is that it’ll be $70-80k or so for the models they plan to release this month.
I mean, i don’t want any truck, and would try to redirect one that might be given to me. That’s the main reason i wouldn’t buy it at any price. I wouldn’t buy a conventional truck, either.