I believe that was a large motivation behind the (otherwise ill-advised IMO) topic bans. Most of the enthusiasts behind those topics were getting themselves banned anyway. And they’re mostly fringe topics with few people needing convincing. Whereas the topic at hand is decidedly not.
No, I would not, because given the nature of discussion on this message board, there would be no lack of posters (gentiles and Jews, alike) debunking that claim. So someone coming along to simply read the discussion as a casual (interested) observer, would benefit from having read the bad claims and the cogent arguments against such bad claims. I realize that topics like this may eventually be classified as thrice told tales and be prohibited. That’s fine because I’m pretty sure all the evidence is in at this point. But the trans issues discussion is still highly topical and not all the evidence is in. The subject may have been boring you since 2005, and others may find it offensive, but it’s an ongoing conversation in the world, whether SDMB bans it or not. And frankly, while it is ongoing, it would be foolish of the mods to ban it when some of the most interesting aspects and challenges of the conversation are taking place as part of public policy, health policy and research.
Agreed.
Also agree this was jerkish and should have been modded. Is there anyone at all who thinks this kind of thing should be allowed?
It would be nice to do this for the currently banned topics. Add some links to threads in the post that lists them, perhaps.

We definitely shouldn’t be having discussions like “do those Oceanians deserve to die?” or the like, which is the equivalent of discussing transgender posters’ gender identification validity.
Is there an award for most hyperbolic comparison?

But the trans issues discussion is still highly topical and not all the evidence is in.
The issue of whether transgender people have a sincere and legitimate gender identity is specifically “The trans issue” I was comparing.
And you respond with “Not all the evidence is in”?
Seriously?
You want to maybe rethink that post?

Is there an award for most hyperbolic comparison?
What a privilege, to get to decide what is and isn’t hyperbole for minorities one is not a member of.

I would love to know if those jerkish posts were flagged. Never expect something to be done without flags, otherwise it is just dumb luck that a mod is reading the same thread as you. The SDMB just added 4 new mods ( puzzlegal, Hari_Seldon, raventhief & myself) and the flags are getting reacted to a bit quicker.
The target of this was sufficiently high in the SDMB hierarchy that it’s inconceivable it wasn’t noticed. Which pretty much tells those from back in those days who the target was. Maybe it was eventually dealt with, but it was certainly left far too long. I suppose I could go back and dredge up the thread and posts, but not at the moment. Right now I’m just dropping in briefly.
No need and I’m pretty sure who we’re talking about. Can I say, that as you described it, I would have moved on it fairly quick as soon as it came to my attention.
Modnote: By stripping off the last paragraph of what MrDibble posted, you didn’t respond to his question but effectively cherry-picked what to respond to. That is to be discouraged. Please do not do this again. Hopefully it was just an accident.

Well, it was the same with the old race realist threads for me and at least some other Black posters, and it’s no doubt the same with threads questioning the sincerity or validity of transgender identity for trans posters.

What a privilege, to get to decide what is and isn’t hyperbole for minorities one is not a member of.
You’re entitled to your own opinions, not to your own reality.
By leaving it out, I assumed it would be clear from my response that I was not questioning the sincerity or validity of transgender identity of trans posters. Based on @MrDibble reply and your note, I see that was a wrong assumption to draw. When I said the trans conversation is still highly topical as a whole and that “not all evidence is in”, it was to contrast the comparison he used wrt claims of Jews killing Christin children; that is what I was getting at.

it was to contrast the comparison he used
The comparison of people questioning that trans isn’t a valid gender identity? That comparison? Because that and racism are the only two I made in that post.
Since Oceania is a made-up country, but real trans people do kill themselves over their identity being erased, I think that statement is oh so very true, but not in the way you intended.

The issue of whether transgender people have a sincere and legitimate gender identity is specifically “The trans issue” I was comparing.
The notion of gender is going through something of a transformation right now. To say self-identified gender is that gender is not an immediately understood concept. The JK Rowling thread was contentious, but I learned a lot through all the heated discussions. One big takeaway I had is that the only thing you can say about a transgender person is that they identify as that gender, but that doesn’t imply anything else about them. You can’t make any assumptions that if a person identifies as gender X, they have characteristics of gender X. A sincere transwoman does not have to do anything that might stereotypically be considered feminine, such as have having a feminine name, using feminine pronouns, dressing in a feminine way, acting in a feminine way, or anything else like that.
It’s like the way that although there are generalizations about Americans, you can’t make any definitive assumption about an American. An American may speak English and wear jeans, but an American may also speak German and wear lederhosen. I see gender along the same lines. Two people may say they identify as women, but that may be the only thing they have in common. The nature of what it means to each person to identify as a woman may be completely different. That’s the kinds of discussions I feel can be very valuable. The pat answer of “TWAW” is not really going to convince anyone that is confused about these kinds of issues.

The comparison of people questioning that trans isn’t a valid gender identity? That comparison? Because that and racism are the only two I made in that post.
I recognize that this is your position of comparison and that of other posters with similar views.

The pat answer of “TWAW” is not really going to convince anyone that is confused about these kinds of issues.
No one here on the trans ally side gives just that pat answer and doesn’t elaborate in some fashion.

I see. What about the case where a member genuinely denies the validity of transgender identities?
“I’ll call you whatever pronouns you wish, but…”
- “I don’t think you should play girls’ soccer.”
- “I support this legislation which will make it illegal for schools to let students use any bathroom except the one that matches their sex as assigned at birth”.
- “I don’t support the integration of transmen and transwomen into the military”.
- “I won’t accomodate your requests when it comes to uniforms.”
Are all of these the same thing? I have no problem with transgender people using whatever bathroom they want to use, serving in the military, I’m pleased as punch to refer to them by whatever pronouns they choose, I’d like to make sure they’re protection from discrimination in housing, education, & the workforce, and I’d like rules here that prohibited people from deliberately misgendering trans people. But I do have some concerns when it comes to transwomen competing in women’s sports. But I don’t think that means I’m denying the validity of transgender identities.

I for one would appreciate links to such threads. I was around 15 years ago but missed them and would like to know more.
If someone else has posted links yet, I missed them.
This thread of Una’s is the main one I remember:
Hi there. I searched and did not really find an “ask the” thread similar to this, except for an old thread by a transman. So I thought I would go ahead and start one, since I received many PMs over the year asking me to do such. I will note a few caveats. First, I’m not going to answer every question. Although I’m fully transitioned and “out and proud,” there are some things which are none of anyone’s business. Second, the message board staff warned me that I would probably be opening myself…
but in searching I also found this older thread:
I am basically doing this for the same reason Esprix did his ask the Gay Guy threads. The only real diffrence is I don’t think people know enough about being transgendered to form too many misconceptions.I will start off with a quote from someone else.
Thanks, Thudlow

Sure and “Negroid” is the word for Black people.
No it isn’t. This is an outdated term from a now-discredited classification scheme from the 18th century that formed the basis for scientific racism. Has as much validity as orgone and cosmic ether.
If you’re behind on that, you’re behind on a lot of stuff, and you have nobody to blame for it.

You are making an unreasonable assumption that 100 transgender posters leaving the boards would make a public post to announce they were leaving.
I said due to misogyny, not trans. And yes, I do assume that if a poster left the board due to harassment, they would either make a public announcement or PM a Mod, not PM a random poster.
“I have here in my inbox a secret list of 100 posters who left this board due to misogyny”
Hmmm, "I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names …" Tailgunner Joe.
And when someone announces here that they will leave the board unless we change the rules, what has been our response, Every. Single. Time.?
Look, we should change the rules because it is the right thing to do. That is the only proper reason.
Not because of a “secret list”.