As far as I can tell the owners/managers don’t really care at all about how poorly the site runs. Maybe that’s because they don’t make any money off the site.
I never see any posts here about improvements or fixes. The closest I see is “Jerry is looking into that”
I was getting ready to pony up to be a paid member but I don’t see the point of that since I get constant crashes.
You shouldn’t be getting crashes. Mine is not crashing. See whether CCleaner can help. See this thread for testimonials from people whom it helped tremendously.
My years of observation have lead me to believe that the hardware and software, if properly managed, are up to the demands placed on them compared to other message boards.
The same problems have been going on for so long that it is clear that it is a process problem. I.e., that how things are done is the issue. Problems of this ilk generally do not go away unless the personnel changes.
That appears to be something that no one in authority is either aware needs to be done or feels the urgency to do. Unfortunately, the most obvious people to try and push things thru on this front are quite insular and are not all that interested in threads such as these.
How is CC cleaner on my PC going to make this site run better?
As explained in the referenced thread, sometimes a computer can become clogged with corrupted cookies, hundreds of millions of bytes of temp files, and registry orphans and remnants. These can sometimes affect one site more than another, due to a number of factors — such as the “crashes” you mentioned in your Opening Post.
CCleaner cleans out all that stuff, and let’s you start anew with clean, corruption-free browsing cache, and a clean registry.
Maybe it won’t help you at all, I don’t know. But as you can see from the referenced thread, it has helped others. I use it practically every day.
What exactly do you mean by “constant crashes?” Describe what happens when you “crash.” Also, what browser are you using?
I use Firefox. By “crash” I mean not being able to access the site. Or getting database errors. I guess I should have been a little more clear in my first post.
I don’t think these issues are unique to me. There was a thread about problems in the mornings but I don’t know if that was fixed since nobody ever said it was fixed.
Bijou, the answer is pretty clearly NO. The people that run the show here do NOT care about the board’s performance. Mind you, I’m not talking about moderators or TubaDiva; I think they get just as annoyed as the regular users, but really can’t say so publicly which is understandable.
If the powers that be did care about the problems, they would have been fixed by now.
The other option is they care but they don’t care enough to spend any money to fix the problems. (Assuming that more money could fix them which may not be true, they could be fixed with little or no money spent)
How dare you presume to have a right to a glitch free board! Don’t you realise you are on the most important site on teh interwebs, and that you are fortunate to have been allowed to post here?
I feel like I’m fortunate to post here. It’s not the 'Net’s biggest board, or its busiest, or its most famous. But it has 10 years of very interesting history. It has an administrator whom I’ve blasted with full cannons both here and on other sites, and yet she still communicates with me in a civil, and even humble manner. Granted, Dex is a bit trigger happy, but he doesn’t hold grudges, and he has rescinded some of his rulings before.
But I like the fact that the smartest person I’ve ever encountered (Indistinguishable) posts here. I like the fact that materialists like SentientMeat, who bother actually to understand their opponent’s position post here. I like the fact that Gaudere is an administrator: she deserves it for helping Tuba (who, by the way, personally paid for a temp board when the board crashed for several days.) I like that I’ve been able to heal relations with people like EddyTeddyFreddy and Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber. I like that Triskadecamus posts here. And that Polycarp does. And Voyager. And shit, just too many to list. I even like that Der Trihs posts here. His arguments are helpful to my side. Even my meltdowns (and other people’s as well) have been a part of the board’s history.
The whole Wally thing. And the old days, when Spiritus Mundi — another brilliant individual — posted here. And kind people, like Washte, whom I miss very much. Biggirl. Guinastasia. Chronos. And people who call me “attention whore” and all that. It seems that even FinnAgain and I are working out our differences. I don’t know. I’ve left out probably a hundred names that I feel like are almost family. This is a forgiving place. It’s a place you can shit on, forsake, and then return — all without a strike against you.
Of course, I’m a '99er, a Charter Member, and an infamous character, so maybe my point of view is different. Yes, it’s not a well maintained board, but its home. And home is a place that you can always come back to. It’s a place where, if you’re down and out, the people will rally and collect money for you. It’s a damn good place, even if its server sucks.
There are a lot of problems with the system. It’s not Bijou Drains or my system or our browsers or our cookies, etc. (It can be cookies for not remembering someone, but not always.)
I can’t see how anyone would think that the “database error” message could be at the user’s end, for one example of many. Got that one several times earlier today.
I have visited a huge number of sites over the years, and this is consistently the slowest. How that could be at my end, on different machines, from different networks, with different OSes, with different browsers is hard to imagine.
No one thinks that. No one has said that.
How many different machines, networks, OSes, and browsers? Two? Thirty? Thousands? The guy in the thread I referenced used two. His problems disappeared. The gal in the thread I referenced saw her laptop come to life. I’m really not here to argue with you, and I won’t be back to see your response because, frankly, it is predictable. I just offered what I thought might help. If you don’t want it, there’s no need to stamp me as some sort of enemy or opponent who is trying to argue with you. It’s pretty clear now that your title question is merely rhetorical.
Hey Lib, how much longer are you gonna junior mod in ATMB before you finally post part five of your blog in GD?
Just askin’…
The major complaint lately had to do with slow operation during morning hours. After consultation with our service provider, it appears this problem arose because of a bottleneck in the communications pipe between the master and slave servers. (The master mirrors to the slave; the idea as I recall was that we would use the slave for searches in order not to tie up the master.) The short version of the fix is that Jerry suspended mirroring during the hours when the slowdown was most evident. He put this in place a couple weeks ago and looking at the time stamps on the posts I’d say that’s when most of the complaints stopped - yours is the first we’ve had in a while. So my initial thought is that the problems you’re having now are local to your system. Once in a while I still get an unformatted page, but this always resolves on refresh. If others are having persistent problems (as opposed to the odd infrequent glitch), please advise and we will investigate further.
Xploder: if you think someone is junior-modding, please REPORT it. You do this by hitting the little ! in the red triangle in the upper right corner of the post. That way, the mods can decide whether the person is indeed junior-modding and correct them, or whether it’s simply a statement about the boards that any poster can make.
In this instance, the topic is NOT one for the mods since we have no interaction with the hardware (or software, for that matter), so Liberal is free to make whatever computer-related guesses he may wish.
I get database errors several times a week. I am generally browsing in the afternoon or late at night. The problem is on your end.
“Computers are useless. They give you only answers.” — Pablo Picasso
I get timeouts and the VBulletin database error message regularly, averaging 3-4X/week, and usually in the morning/early afternoon EDT. Haven’t complained; others have, and gotten a “we’re doing what we can” message. But it should be noted that breaking mirroring did not toally fix the problem. (And I do clear my cache regularly, so I’m fairly sure it’s not local.)
So, you cleared your cache and you’re still getting database errors? Hmmm. Well you should check these other things that could cause database errors: