It is a multi-part answer…you can’t pick and choose the parts you want. That is what is called taking it out of context. Also, all the individuals you named were men. Not sure how much time you have spent around women, but when it comes to sex most of ladies are wired completely differently than the fellas. Hormones aside, most guys would be like, shucks I need to just knock this thing out…get this off my list so the guys will leave me alone about it. A woman is more than likely going to expect a build up to it and then be thinking about the long-term implications of it.
Not to mention that she has waited this long and has put her virginity on a pedestal.
The phrase, “Being single minded in the pursuit…” would also seem to apply for the case of her putting her sport first.
I took nothing out of context. I was showing that part of your answer wasn’t relevant. She may be very picky and a pain in the ass as a person- I have no idea what she’s like (and I’m not sure you do either). But plenty of people have been very dedicated to their sport and still enjoyed a lot of sex, so I’m saying that shouldn’t be considered a factor.
:rolleyes: We’re talking about a specific individual, so these generalizations aren’t relevant.
I have had the good fortune of experiencing many different people from many different places. I have also done my fair share of dating and all in all there are not that many different kinds of people.
Let’s call it 31 flavors of personality. It is very rare to meet a truly unique person.
PinTA = Pain in the Ass
I am sure she is a wonderful person for those she likes, but it seems to me that she believes some of her own hype and has put her virginity on a pedestal. I mean it is just sex…it literally happens a billion times a day.
Again, without being able to interview her directly about her true motivation and interview those of her life to get a real assessment of who she is, then we will have to count on some level of generalization.
And does she use the Bill Clinton definition of sex? That’s also important. I don’t know how many chicks I knew in high school that talked about virginity and saving herself for her husband, and Jesus didn’t approve of fornication, blah, blah, but would suck every guy they went out with.
It made me scratch my head back then, but maybe this lady feels the same way? And if so, is she single?
Very well put. I don’t care if an athlete is a virgin, gay, recovered crack addict, or mother of twelve. It’s irrelevant to the sport and the athlete’s skills, and I’m tired of the “backstory” being a bigger deal than the actual athletics.
We can dance this around this all we want, but it is odd, and it’s extremely odd for an attractive grown adult woman with a near perfect body to engage in this lifestyle. It’s her perfect right to do this, and not have people bother her about it, but let’s not get too precious about it. It’s damned unusual to behave this way if you have options.
So sure, she could be a super faithful Christian, or be gay, or have a low sex drive, or be inter-sexed, or whatever, no one needs to judge her or get in her business, but let’s not pretend this is not at the way far end of the behavioral and lifestyle choices bell curve for attractive adult females.
If she is a virgin at 30, that is her business and nobody elses. If she brings it up unbidden in an interview where she is being quizzed on a good deal of other topics, it somewhat suggests a preoccupation or an agenda.
I mean, can you imagine interviewing for a job, and telling your prospective employer that? Further, you know that everyone in the company (and their extended families) are going to watch a tape of the interview.
There are a number of medical conditions that can cause a lack of libido (although many of these would probably impair someone enough to prevent them from becoming an Olympic class athlete), as well as gynecological problems (e.g. vulvar vestibulitis) that can make vaginal penetration extremely painful. While the latter often would not be noticed until a young woman attempted to have intercourse for the first time, she might also experience enough pain when using tampons or undergoing a pelvic exam that she’d decide to avoid intercourse. While this sort of physical problem could lead to psychological issues, it’s not in and of itself abnormal to want to avoid pain.
It was never an issue to raise in interviews because most have been Catholics. Non-catholic voters(as a whole) never made it an issue in the past either, and we crafted a society where people didnt polarize on the issue.
But even here in the western provinces, most politicians election pamphlets(that I have seen) make little mention of the matter; its just not important in Canadian society, and considered slightly tacky to ask, somewhat imposing to offer.
I’ve actually had the benefit of working with three politicians: a mayor, an alderman(who ran for mayor at least four times) and an alderman/mayor. I am also related to another former mayor.
What is the big deal ? There are plenty of men who would like to get laid, but can’t complete the process of getting a woman interested in copulating with them.
And women have standards and emotional requirements that go way beyond any urges that their hormones produce. I know, and I’ve tried to get laid many times with many women only to suffer rejection way more times than not.
If a man is attractive enough hormones will often win handily and all those “requirements” rapidly get left in the clothes pile at the end of the bed. If you are charming and good looking women will practically fight to fuck you.
Male athletes, and successful athletes of either gender in general live in completely different sexual world than you do re access and availability.
Sorry, I get confused frequently. In Canada, like the Soviet Union and other similar places, red is the left wing party. (Although to liven it up, we have Orange for extreme left wing, so it’s good I’m not trying to comment on Ireland.)
We don’t and it’s not. That’s why we know TMI about the USA.
Actually, I suspect the english ones have been various flavours of protestant, except the ones from Quebec. But King? Deifenbaker? Even MacDonald, etc.
The point is religion is nowhere near the focus and polarizing issue it seems to be in the USA. Juries in Catholic Quebec failed to convict Dr. Morgentaler repeatedly, which eventually overthrew Canada’s abortion laws, yet nobody is up in arms, the anti-abortion groups get little traction. Fundamentalist groups are very marginal. Nobody seriously expects textbooks to mention creationism rather than evolution.
Yeah, I meant in the civilized world; Saudi Arabia was meant to be sarcasm. I don’t see any such obsession in news from Britain, Scandinavia, France, Italy, Spain, whatever…
This is probably the issue at discussion. What you do in your private life is your own business. Making you private life public usually displays an agenda. Practicing is your own business and perfectly Ok. I was raised with the notion that excessive public displays of faith may be more hypocritical, boastful, and prideful rather than sincere… Like the Pharisees, “Holier than thou”.
Deciding you don’t want to have sex is a psychological issue?
Damn, you learn something new every day.
Just because someone doesn’t agree with you about how to live one’s life, or hold aspects of their life to the same value as you, doesn’t make them stupid / psychologically ill. And strangely enough, it’s possible to socialize with your peers, even if they’re of the opposite sex (!), without jumping into bed with them.
