No, that’s not what the stripes mean. It means the states flipped from the last election.
ETA - ninja’d! But I’ll take this opportunity to add that I was confused by it too, until I figured out what their color coding meant.
No, that’s not what the stripes mean. It means the states flipped from the last election.
ETA - ninja’d! But I’ll take this opportunity to add that I was confused by it too, until I figured out what their color coding meant.
Is your principal backing you up?
Trump needs PA, GA, NZ, NC and AZ and that is a tie? I thought that was a Trump win. Not that it is going to happen
It has been described as a fraction of the 60000 late votes from the primary. Kind of vague, but it sets an upper limit.
Trump needs PA, GA, NZ, NC and AZ and that is a tie? I thought that was a Trump win. Not that it is going to happen
Trump needs New Zealand?
If Biden wins GA and Trump wins everything else left then it is a tie.
Yes, fortunately. The article is very objective, and the class is optional, so I feel on very firm footing. It’s just a little disheartening to get emails like that.
I suppose the PA legislature could say screw the voters we’re going to substitute our own electors. But I don’t think they would.
That was my big worry but it looks like, thankfully, I was wrong:
Good to hear this, even though I think this gambit is extremely unlikely to happen (despite worries of Barton Gellman and others):
When all the votes are counted, it appears Biden will have won as strongly in 2020 as Trump did last time. Pennsylvania will not be recountably close and, with stealing Pennsylvania’s electoral votes off the table, it would take at least two, probably three other state legislatures to all reject democracy. Won’t happen.
The big disappointment is of course the Congressional races. Looks like there were Republicans who repudiated Trump but voted straight GOP otherwise.
A tie is a Trump win, so mentally, just give him one extra EV.
Yuppers
The article is very objective, and the class is optional , so I feel on very firm footing. It’s just a little disheartening to get emails like that.
Kudos on both the discussion plan and the parameters you set. Seriously, very impressive. You’re bound to get an email or two like that, given the level of paranoia, particularly on one side. Too bad you can’t have the rules and disclaimer scrolling across the bottom of your screen, especially the one about parents watching but NOT participating (which I think is terrific). That looks like the one sticky area to me.
In GA, it’s the football team needing a TD, onside kick, and FG in the last 2 minutes. It could happen, but it’s really rare. The question in GA are the overseas and provisional ballots.
I hope the metaphorical football team in this scenario that needs to defend against a TD, onside kick, and FG in the last 2 minutes is not the Lions.
My 2nd district in NC went from R to D. It was gerrymandered by the GOP to have a lot of Dems so that other NC districts are more red. Same is true for NC 4 and NC 12 .
They need to call it soon, so Mr. Kornacki can change his clothes
Most provisional ballots in PA fall into three categories:
From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
Lara Putnam, who chairs the Department of History at the University of Pittsburgh and studies the electoral landscape in Western Pennsylvania, said she expects the provisional ballots to “be very slightly less Biden-heavy than mail-ins, but still net Biden more votes than Trump.”
Yes, fortunately. The article is very objective, and the class is optional , so I feel on very firm footing. It’s just a little disheartening to get emails like that.
Indeed. The idea that there’s something illegitimate about teaching students how the Electoral College works – my mind boggles. (Not that it hasn’t boggled a lot lately.)
The big disappointment is of course the Congressional races. Looks like there were Republicans who repudiated Trump but voted straight GOP otherwise.
That wouldn’t surprise me. ‘We’ve got to get Trump out of there but let’s try to make sure the Congress will keep Biden under control’ is actually a quite logical position. (I don’t agree with it, but that’s a different matter.)
And I strongly suspect that a lot of Americans like divided government just fine, and try to accomplish it when possible. Which works fairly well if all parties, once elected, start seriously trying to run the country the best they can, even with disagreements as to how to do that; but not well at all if one party has decided it’s perfectly willing to screw the country up as much as possible in the hope that it’ll improve their chances in the next election.
Republicans have asked SCOTUS to halt the count of those late-cast ballots in Pennsylvania, same as they did before the election. The ballots are already segregated and have been counted. No one knows how many of those ballots there are. May or may not make a difference. According to elections officials is that the number of those ballots is quite small.
According to Amelia Thompson-Deveaux (see below for quote) at 538, the disputed “late-arriving” ballots have not been included in the counts. Also, I read elsewhere (CNN, I think) the head of elections in PA said it was a small number – bigger counties had maybe 500, lots of smaller counties had zero. They did not expect it to be determinative.
As we keep watching Pennsylvania, it’s worth noting that in addition to the fact that the vote totals we’re seeing there now are without the late-arriving ballots (…)
They may have been counted – I don’t know – but even if so, are not in the totals.
It’s legitimate only to the extent that a corrupt SCOTUS might let it pass. But the PA Supreme Court already ruled that ballots received until today are valid, and an 8-member SCOTUS turned it down once. This move would disenfranchise voters by changing the rules after the election started, and it boggles the mind to see the legitimacy of that.
I agree that reversing it now, when the rule was in effect on election day, would be manifestly unjust, but it might be how it would go. If they had taken it and reversed it when it came up the first time, it would be in line with many precedents that pretty much require a change like that to come from the legislature, because that is where the power to choose the method of selecting electors is vested. The Supreme Court routinely reverses court-ordered rule changes like that one in the run-up to an election.
Also, re: PA legislature possibly changing the method after the election – PA state law would not be an impediment. A legislature cannot typically bind a future legislature. Unless it is PA constitutional law, the legislature can just change any conflicting state law. So, it would have to be against the state constitution, federal law, or the US constitution. I’d say it probably violates the latter two, but of course the US Supreme Court is the final arbiter of that…
However, that can be changed at any time by amending state law, and Republicans have sufficient numbers in the Kentucky legislature to override the Governor’s veto. And there’s precedent nationally for doing so — Mass Dems changed the process for replacing Senators when Ted Kennedy was on deaths door and Mitt Romney was Governor.
Actually, the Mass legislature first changed the law in 2004, when Senator John Kerry was running for President and Mitt Romney was governor. So they removed his power to appoint a new Senator, and implemented a special election instead. So the seat would have been vacant for 4 months or so, then a new Senator elected. This all came to nothing when Kerry lost and just remained in his Senate seat.
When Ted Kennedy was terminally ill in 2009, Deval Patrick, a Democrat, was governor. So the legislature kept the special election in place, but gave the governor the power to appoint a temporary replacement until the election occurred. But Republican Scott Brown won the special election, which wiped out the Democrats filibuster proof majority of 60 seats. This led to all sorts of weird shenanigans in the passing of Obamacare.
I hope the metaphorical football team in this scenario that needs to defend against a TD, onside kick, and FG in the last 2 minutes is not the Lions.
The State of Georgia has rather some pertinent experience in remarkable moments in blowing football games.
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That wouldn’t surprise me. ‘We’ve got to get Trump out of there but let’s try to make sure the Congress will keep Biden under control’ is actually a quite logical position. (I don’t agree with it, but that’s a different matter.)
Yep, this is how my friend thinks. He voted trump in 2016 (to preserve our friendship, we don’t talk politics much). Then he mentioned when the 2018 midterms came around, “ok, gonna vote straight-ticket Dem to keep trump in check”. And it wasn’t a matter of changing his mind about trump.