Well, dammit, they are right and we are wrong, there is massive criminal vote fraud:
# Lindsey Graham’s Alleged Attempt to Toss Georgia Ballots Is Felony Election Fraud
## If he weren’t a senator, Graham might be facing years in prison, according to legal experts in Georgia… So far, however, the only individual credibly accused of a fraudulent effort to steal the election is South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham. On Monday, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger—who, like Graham, is a Republican—told the Washington Post that Graham asked him if he could throw out all mail ballots from counties with a high rate of signature mismatch. Raffensperger later clarified that he believed Graham wanted his office to throw out valid, legally cast ballots. The senator has contested this account.
Graham’s alleged request is unseemly and corrupt. But is it criminal? In short, yes, according to multiple Georgia election law experts. If Raffensperger’s account is true, there is virtually no doubt that Graham committed a crime under Georgia law.
So, yep, fraud-criminal fraud- by the republicans, of course.
Sorry for the off-topic, but I thought you (and maybe others) might find this helpful also. You can draft responses in multiple threads at the same time and the drafts will save until you get back to them. That way, if you’re researching the topic, you can save your research in the draft. (You might have to close the tab and open the board again to move to a different thread) When you go back to the thread, the draft will appear again. You can even log out and the drafts will save. [I’ve only had one draft mysteriously disappear out of dozens.]
Back to the thread. Yay about Georgia. Was LOLing about the goop running down Giuliani’s face.
How to Persuade Trump to Concede - One NY Times reader suggests turning the promising vaccine news into a victory lap for the president.
"To the Editor:
It seems to me that President Trump’s continued refusal to concede defeat is less a sinister plot to cling to power and more a determination to somehow declare victory even in defeat. If the recent vaccine news holds true, that will be an extraordinary accomplishment by our scientific community, and let’s give credit where it’s due — and maybe even some that’s not due.
Let’s all agree to praise Mr. Trump for Operation Warp Speed’s success and congratulate him for the fastest and most robust (or best and most beautiful) vaccine campaign in history. Let him take that win as his way to declare a personal victory and make way for President-elect Joe Biden.
If Mr. Trump is going to continue to hold incredible sway over his supporters in his post-presidency, I can think of no better role for him than as a champion of the effectiveness of the ‘Trump’ Covid vaccines. Maybe he can reach people who would otherwise be reluctant to get vaccinated.
So let me be the first to congratulate him. Heckuva job, Donnie!"
These things are getting tossed almost as fast as they can get filed.
I’m not sure what the appeals process looks like, but without a TRO issued and with certifications in key states coming next Monday, it only gets harder to legally overturn those certifications now.
I need to read a bit more on the exact process by which electors are selected in the various states after the certification of results.
I know in Arizona the governor has already he said he won’t sign until all of the law suits are finished. I don’t know how that exactly plays out if there are still appeals being heard and the safe harbor deadline passes for choosing electors (Dec 8).
I don’t read a ton of press, but what little I do read (basically Chicago Trib) is getting increasingly critical of Trump’s efforts. Remember way back when the media hesitated even to call him on his flat-out lies? Man, you read any of the stories and they just flatly dismiss his contentions calling them “lacking any basis in fact” and so on. Meanwhile pointing out that he has nothing on his calendar, etc, and declaring efforts as threatening democracy.
Yeah, most people dwell in their own echo chambers, but it IS nice to see such plain speaking.
Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there!
I really can’t quite explain why, but the “Minifa” panel had me howling for about 20 minutes. Completely uncontrollable laughter, tears streaming down my face, etc.
Thank you so much for linking this! “Minifa! Teeny tiny vote-stealing Antifas” is absolutely my favorite and the most hilarious thing in the universe right now.
The Republican Party is now 0 for 3 in its frantic legal quest to declare President Donald Trump the winner of Arizona’s election.
Maricopa County Superior Court Judge John Hannah on Thursday not only declined to order the county to re-audit the ballots, he invited the state to file a motion asking that the GOP pay its legal fees, as allowed bwhen a lawsuit is groundless.
Hannah’s ruling comes after the hand audit in sample precincts showed a 100% match between the paper count and the machine count.
One lawsuit remaining:
A hearing for the remaining election challenge, which claims the county denied one voter the right to cast her ballot and failed to properly process another voter’s ballot electronically, will begin at 9 a.m. Friday.
