Probably not. He and the others filed this just a few days ago, after he’d comfortably won his district (59.3%). If anything, getting the mail-in ballots tossed will just improve his margin, most likely.
Delaying the certification is highly unlikely to affect him negatively, in sum, while quite possibly screwing over lots of Democratic voters, as well as setting a really bad precedent. Mr. Kelly, I suppose, thinks that’s just great.
Here’s a fairly comprehensive article from a Pennsylvania newspaper.
Whoa. If I’m not totally bamboozled, I think the above several posts are talking about two different cases.
The case in federal court, gruffly dismissed with prejudice by Judge Brann, boiled down to whether two Republican voters who had their ballots rejected and not given a chance to “cure” them, could demand that a different county should have all their mail-in votes rejected because they did give voters a chance to “cure” their rejected ballots.
That is the case being appealed to the Circuit Court. But as I read it somewhere, the appeal is a very narrow and limited one: The plaintiffs had amended their complaint, deleting charges of fraud, leaving not much left. They then claimed this happened accidentally, and asked permission to amend their complaint again to re-instate those charges. This was the amendment that Judge Brann denied.
As I read it somewhere, the appeal asks the Circuit Court to toss the case back to the trial court, with the instruction to allow (or maybe “reconsider”) allowing the additional amendment. That’s all, AIUI.
As best I can make out from galen_ubal’s link, the case by Mike Kelley is a new and separate case.
(ETA: Now I’ve got myself confused: Which of these two distinct cases is the one where one Republican judge ordered all further certification action to stop?)
Aha. I think I’ve got it. It’s that new case by Mike Kelley in state court, and not the case in the federal Circuit Court appeal, where the judge ordered the certification to stop.
As someone said in one of the articles, the House should take Rep Kelly at his word and assume that his election was riddled with fraud and refuse to seat him.
This quote doesn’t seem to match the “down ballot” statement by flurb
“To the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States of America, Respondents are preliminarily enjoined from doing so,” pending an evidentiary hearing, according to the judge’s order.
I should have clarified that the order only effectively applies to down ballot races. The presidential race is already certified — there’s nothing left to enjoin. The order itself is a legal joke that’s left observers scratching their heads over what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish.
A bit of theater to give MAGAts the impression that Donnie is “still fighting for them” and “we’re gonna make as many libruls cry as we can before we’re forced out of office by the Democrat kooo coupe croup coup.” That’s all I got.
Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water.
IANAL but this judgment makes no sense at any level. AIUI the law allowing mail-in votes in PA was passed by state Republicans but now they don’t like it. Double eyeroll. The voters depended on that law that it was okay but now Republicans want to take their votes away retroactively. Dems should be emphasizing that aspect IMO.
Yes, exactly. I would say that I hope voters are taking notice, but I’m worried that Trump and co. have successfully convinced a huge portion of the GOP voters that the election was truly fraudulent.
His claim pre-election that “the only way I can lose is if there is fraud” may have been yet another time we really should have taken him literally. It has now become a mantra of the Republican party. And I’m not sure what you do when one party actively states that they cannot legally be defeated at the ballot box - that any loss is proof of fraud.
I said this in another thread, but it’s more appropriate here:
Maybe it’s obvious, but it just occurred to me that, by denying the factual result of an election, that person is saying that CERTAIN HUMANS LITERALLY DO NOT EXIST. It’s quite bizarre. It’s like denying the existence of Austria, or Zimbabwe, or Sri Lanka.
Like so many of the deplorables’ “thoughts,” it is a sickening blend of anti-factual stupidity, and insulting (often racist) sociopathy. They’re saying that millions of actual, living, breathing people DO NOT EXIST.
Biden voters do not think such things. They are appalled, disheartened, and bewildered that 73 million deplorables walk among us, but the don’t deny their very existence (nor that their geographic distribution happens to magnify their power — including their chances of winning the presidency — in our current system).
Well put, JKM.
Yes, there is a certain pathology to it. Because once you have determined that you are the side of righteousness, and that your political enemies want to destroy your very country and way of life, it is very hard in a democracy to accept that you don’t have the majority on your side.
So either you must either acknowledge that you don’t have the majority and abandon democracy for the sake of the nation’s survival (at least one GOP rep basically said this in the election run-up), or you must deny the fact that you don’t have the majority (by declaring massive fraud and doing what you claim - just deny the existence of large groups of people).
It’s a logical conundrum, but one that comes naturally from the dueling beliefs that (a) our enemies want to destroy the country and (b) there are more of them than us.
True.
This is rapidly becoming popular in the GOP, and will probably be GOP orthodoxy in five years.
Doesn’t work.
If the USA abandons democracy, there might after that be a country here with the same name, but the original version won’t have survived.
The first rule of Cult Club:
You don’t talk about Cult Club.
But they are right, the election was rigged:
They are an unabashedly anti-democratic party in that sense alone, even if we set aside their brazen efforts at voter suppression and voter intimidation. This is perhaps the main reason why its leaders have proved so reluctant to dissociate themselves from Trump’s specious allegation that the 2020 presidential election was “rigged”. They know that the system is rigged. It is rigged to favor Republicans. And they relish not only the irony of Trump’s audacious reversal of the truth, but also the way it distracts attention from the genuinely unconscionable rigging that gives an American minority the power to impose its will on the American majority.
GIGO, I laughed - and have sent that to several friends who grew up with me in the Eighties.