Election Day [Week][Month[s]] [Year] 2020 follow-along thread

They are orthogonal. I didn’t suggest otherwise.

Just waking up to this bullshit. Fuck you, Pennsylvania. You’re breaking my fucking heart.

“Federal” is code for socialist. The gummint starts telling us what to do just to save a few lives?? Who knows where it will end?

“Live free or die!” If those are our choices, so be it! (Cue rallying cry, followed by people running off stage waving their guns!)

I’m mortified to be an American citizen today.

If people seriously voted for Trump because they thought Joe friggin’ Biden is a socialist then the party’s got some real long term reckoning to do. His entire career has been about middle ground and even bragging about being once rated the most conservative democrat in the senate.

He looks like he’s brought back a sizeable chunk of white working class voters in the midwest to rebuild the blue wall but a lot of the experts said for years the sunbelt states would be more suited for Dems in the future than the rustbelt.

When I went to bed last night, Trump was > 60 cents on PredictIt. He peaked at 72 and about 3 hours ago, he started falling rapidly so that Biden is now in the 80s. Before the election, it was about 60/40 in favor of Biden.

I guess that’s somewhat of a good sign.

What about conservative black women like Candace Owens and others in the “walk away” movement?

And then there are gays for Trump.

New Mississippi flag got approved:

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The betting markets have whip-sawed from being in Loser Donald’s favour overnight to where they are now, perhaps pricing in Wisconsin and Michigan:

Loser Donald: 3/1
Joe Biden: 1/4

That of course means if you put $100 on trump, your payout could be $300 while the same $100 on Biden nets only $125 as he is now the favourite.

Emphatically true. They are the party of BLM and Pride and SJWs. Not saying these things are bad, but they need to not be every third word out of your mouth.

No, they aren’t. I wish people would stop saying that since it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. If people who care primarily about economic, health, and environmental issues see them as the party of BLM and SJWs, and either vote for them or don’t based on, or despite of, that perception, then they don’t have anything to lose by embracing it to the detriment of the millions of lives that could be saved with health care reform. Witness how far Bernie got despite using the word “socialist” as part of his self-description which was only made possible by decades of relentlessly trying to portray Democrats as socialists.

You know those yard signs that said, “I’m SO gonna vote!”? I’ve seen some where people hand-wrote “against Socialism!” below that.

People are stupid. People think Obamacare is socialism. They don’t grok that the ACA directs people to buy PRIVATE insurance from private insurers. People are stupid.

More like fuck you, “United” States. First, you elected Trump. Second, there’s no reason he should have had a snowball’s chance on the Sun of being re-elected.
No matter who gets elected, we are now the shithole country Trump warned us about.

Well when you consider the current covid rules in California where the democratic governor tried mandating for Thanksgiving things like only a certain number of people in households are allowed and then they have a curfew. The CA supreme court thru them out.

And in other countries like Spain and France there have been near riots over new covid restrictions.

Yes we are.

Bernie got as far as he did as a socialist specifically because he did not play those stupid games.

And the “people” who see them as the BLM/LGBTQ/SJW party are the opposition. Yes, any logically thinking liberal cares most about things like the rebuilding the middle class, the environment and universal healthcare, but when you watch TV the democratic talking head finds a way to tilt every single economic discussion into one about systemic racism. While true…it’s not good politics.

The “Walk Away” movement is an astroturf campaign heavily supported by Russian bots that has been caught using stock photos and claiming they are real people who have left the Democratic Party. Nobody with half a braincell takes it seriously.

Candace Owens can do what she wants, but the fact that at least one black person votes Republican is not statistically significant. The GOP have made the return of de facto redlining a big campaign theme this year, along with supporting rampant corruption and violence by police against black people. “What about” that?

On that point, by the way, I do note that for some reason openly supporting a particular demographic is considered “identity politics”, but openly discriminating against that demographic isn’t. Funny, that.

dude, small exceptions are small exceptions. Of course there are small exceptions.

We need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission - minus the reconciliation. I am losing track of how many Trump administration officials need to be convicted of crimes. Is someone keeping a tally somewhere? Add Louis DeJoy once we figure out where the 300,000 ballots in the bowels of the USPS have gone. Depending on whose ballots they are and where, that’s enough to throw the election.

Dade county, heavily Cuban latino population, broke 62% for HRC, but Biden got a little over 50%. Why? It wasn’t about $15/hr because we’ve been having this conversation at least that long. Reports say it’s because the GOP had a larger ground game in Florida than Dems and they’ve done it for longer. To the extent that Cubans and Latin Americans are more aligned with GOP because of their bad experience with socialist authoritative regimes is one narrative but it’s a bullshit one. Not a single one of them should think for a split second that Trump would have welcomed their boats on Florida shores if they had been coming over when he was president. Instead of caravans, he would have called them flotillas and told them to keep floating.

What we’re seeing play out is a socialist phobia that has been planted in their heads over the past 4 years. This isn’t a Dem failure in Florida. It’s a failure of people’s intelligence to overcome their Trumped up irrational fears. And it would not surprise me at all if highly targeted Russian social media played a role because they’ve had lots of practice in manipulating Latin America politics.

The fact that Republicans are making inroads with latino voters makes them even more important. They actually are becoming a bigger demographic group, so it makes sense for Democrats to focus on appealing to them.