You can appeal to them without alienating everyone else.
Just getting up for the morning. So what are we now looking at for Biden’s path to victory? Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and NE-2 gets him to 270. Should we have any hope for Georgia or Pennsylvania?
THis federal program would have been a great idea. But I can clearly see the governors of CA and NY not wanting to follow it because “Trump doesn’t like science”, stupidity and pettiness instead of people’s lives.
You mean like the 300,000 ballots that the USPS refused yesterday to look for, in spite of a court order?
“Are our politics so out of touch?! No. It’s the voters who are wrong.”
The Democrats in a nutshell.
Well, unless you actually are in a group that deals with systemic marginalization.
Not that portion of “everyone else” who sees the economic system as a zero sum game, and demographic groups as teams competing for pieces of a limited pie.
There was a lot of panic last night and I confess I went to bed fearful. But be patient, things are turning around. I think AZ comes in blue, MI is coming around as early and metro votes come in, NV should come in. GA has a good chance at bluing up as Atlanta comes in, etc. Biden is where he thought he would be, let’s let things take their course.
I’m disappointed in the Senate calls so far, particularly Graham and Moscow Mitch. Senate will be very close.
That’s exactly why the message needs to be decoupled from the demographic. The Dems always turn it into a us vs them, zero sum game. If you have a national platform for say a $15 minimum wage…that can benefit a lot of people and really only alienates business owners. But the reality is that a $15 minimum wage helps with a lot of those equality issues.
If the voters weren’t wrong, Trump would never have won in 2016, nevermind being within reach of a second term now. This country is half full of unrepentant morons and the final count may reveal that there are more of them than at last count.
Can you give an example of a time that the federal government and/or Trump came up with a valid science-based policy and CA or NY refused to obey it because they wanted to petulantly defy Trump? Because you seem to have the relationship reversed. It’s almost always conservative governments defying science-based policy out of spite.
Excellent!. Do you have cites or are you limited to “what you have seen”?
I have cites.
No, and your last statement might be true. However, it is Trumo at the wheel now.
Cuomo said he wouldn’t accept a CDC vaccine, for instance. I can clearly imagine him saying “we don’t trsut Trump on this one”, especially so close to an election. If it’d been COVID-17, they would’ve accepted without a hitch.
No, that’s absurd. The Republicans scream “socialism” about everything. They scream socialism about shit that they themselves advocated. They have a hammer and make everything into a nail. More health care for people? Socialism. Raise taxes to reduce the deficit? Socialism. Share your birthday cake with your friend? Socialism.
When you’ve managed to convince people that Joe Fucking Biden, who, by world standards, is solid right wing as a socialist, just as you’ve managed to convince them that every single democratic candidate has been the MOST FAR LEFT COMMUNIST SOCIALIST EVER, you have really fucking stupid voters, not bad policies.
Shrieking socialism at everything is a lie. The voters are stupid for falling for it over and over again.
But… Biden and the Democrats DO have a national platform for a $15 minimum wage. ??? Biden talked about it a lot.
Apparently Trumps mentor was Roy Cohn.
If Florida voters are ‘in touch,’ I don’t want to be ‘in touch’.
Can we KILL the “probability to win” concept, at least in the case of national US elections? It just sound like a fancy way of saying “he’s got a good lead but he might lose”. If DJT was 25% to win in '16 and 10% in '20 and he wins both, they can, of cousre say “we didn’t say it was 0%” but it means you’re not comitted.
Trump has shown himself repeatedly to advocate for quack medical treatments and to push his agencies to approve treatments for political, rather than scientific, ends. He tried to push through an untested Russian vaccine for instance, as well as his advocacy for HCQ and all sorts of other bullshit. Not trusting Trump or a Trump lackey as far as medical advice goes is a perfectly reasonable policy and I would actually say it’s naive not to be skeptical.
That does not mean that anyone refusing to automatically trust some sort of Trump quack cure or some Trump agency forced through vaccine is doing so out of spite. Given Trump’s history of being anti-science, meddling in science, and advocating for quack treatments, no one should be eager to trust Trump on this one.
The fact that we can’t trust the CDC or FDA now is one of the greatest fucking shames in American history. Those agencies used to be filled with competent civil servants doing their best for the country, but they’ve been infiltrated by political lackies with no ethics.
I, personally, am extremely pro-vaccine and would be the first one to take a covid vaccine. But I’m waiting for one that was approved by the EU or some other trustworthy government.
The country is starting to remind me of that episode of the classic Twilight Zone – I think it was “The Shelter” – where the only family on the block with a fallout shelter is locked inside while listening to their friends and neighbors, who they thought they knew so well, as their desperate pleas to be allowed into the shelter degenerate into racist, bigoted accusations and fighting.