I think I had a snarkgasm.
oh, what’s this on my ass?
No. It is not. And that’s what we have is Romanic offs himself. In effect, 2 lynches on Day 1, one of which is a guaranteed mislynch.
Unless of course he’s Scum and kills himself anyway. That I’d be OK with.
Question the second: Supposing that in return for blocking all Night actions, Day Two was shorter than normal. Is Town better or worse off than not having the Night actions blocked?
sarcasmgasm is a better word
I’m not seeing the connection between lynching Romanic Today, and actions being blocked Tonight. Did I miss something?
And my argument really wasn’t about lynching or not lynching Romanic at all. My point is that if he is what he says he is, then I think his using his ability today would be a Bad Thing. Obviously, lynching him would also be bad if he is Town, but I figured that goes without saying.
Answer my questions and all will become clear.
The idea he’s trying to convey is that if Romanic leaves today and we continue with lynching another player it is equivalent to a Day 1 lynch and a Day 2 lynch with no actions taken during Night 1. This is not a good analogy though because in the case of no Night Actions, we don’t know FOR SURE that the Day 1 lynchee is Town. In this case, if he were to leave (i.e. his role claim is genuine) then he is, by definition, a townie and a mislynch.
Looks like ass cum.
- I don’t believe Romanic’s claim. I think he has re-worked his role PM.
- You owe me a new keyboard.
That is completely irrelevant to the discussion. We are discussing whether it would be a good idea for Romanic to use his claimed power. If Romanic is lying then he does not have the power to off himself and this discussion is pointless. To even have this discussion we must approach it from the assumption that Romanic is Town.
You will note that in my hypothetical above, I assume that the Day One lynch is a lynch of Town:
For the record: I don’t believe Romanic’s claim. The claim reads like story, but I can definitely see story writing power role cover PMs for scum. The error Romanic made reads like a classic mafia slip to me.
If i’m wrong and the claim is real, should he use his power?
If he is definitely going to be lynched, and there is sufficient time in the day for town to make a semi informed second choice, then yes. Unfortunately certainty in his lynch will grow only as day end approaches, so it is unclear when/whether these two factors might come into alignment.
I’m not sure if some of you realize this, but I will not let the tally run until Friday. There’s enough townie love left in me to stop these debates if I feel that you are going nowhere, which is pretty much how I feel right now, seeing how many don’t believe the role I claimed.
Many of you have pointed my “scummy behavior” after the PIS slip, probably because I’ve made a few jokes, but to my defense there’s not much I can do to recover from this. I don’t think I’ve acted particularly scummy, jokes are not synonym of scum, but you are seeing my actions through the eyes of people who already assumed me to be scum because of the slip.
I’m actually amazed how some of you are turning my jokes into something else. 
As for my role being unbelievable, what can I say, it’s my role, complete and unchanged. It’s weak, possibly only useful in endgame, and not so much now that people know about it.
I think you will find that there is only one person who is really turning your jokes into anything other than jokes. The rest of us are looking at your other posts.
Hmm, then what is the scummy behavior I am accused of, if not for my jokes? [except of course the PIS accusation]
FTR, I’m not buying Romanic’s* claim either, for one simple reason: “Two thumbs”. I just don’t know if storyteller would recycle a bit like that…it seriously pings my “try to write like storyteller” meter.
*Huh…wonder how many people besides me have been calling him “Romantic” this whole time?
Here are a few examples:
This was seen as scummy, because it flies int the face of convention here, where Role Claiming on Day 1 is not seen as “sick”.
This whole post has the tone of “You can’t fire me, because I quit!”.
This post was actually just fine until you ended it with “Boohoo”.
Overall, your posts since your ‘slip’ have had a tone about them that says something other than “I’m a Townie who screwed up, but would still like to try to find a way to help my team win the game”.
Now this may just be my opinion, but from reading others’ posts, I don’t think I’m alone.
Too many. :mad:
I like you. I do hope you stick around for another game after you are lynched.
After seeing USCDiver’s explanation, I think I understand what you’re getting at, no thanks to you for continuing to be cryptic with your questions…but I’ll play anyway.
I do not think the Town would be better off in the scenario you describe.
The biggest problem with Day 1 is that it starts with no information. Zero data points on which to build a case on anyone. There is some information to be gained out of the Day 1 lynch, but of the lynchee flips Town, even that is extremely limited. So Night 1 is where you get your first real data: Night kills, results of investigations, etc. But if all actions are blocked on Night 1, then you get no data. Basically Day 2 becomes a replay of Day 1. The only thing you know that you didn’t know at the beginning of the game is that one person was Town but dies before they had a chance to do anything, and the pool of players is slightly smaller than it used to be.
I don’t think this scenario is in the Town’s best interest. And this is not merely a hypothetical, because this is precisely the scenario that played out in the Halloween game currently going on over on Idle’s board. I didn’t think it was a good thing when it happened there, and I don’t think it would be a good thing to happen here.
Now I’ve answered your questions, and I still am ‘unclear’. I assume your opinion differs from mine?
The romance explains all the ass cum.
From where I come, role claiming on day one is sick. Anything else is better than this if you can avoid it. In a survival point of view, publicly claiming on day 1 is a death sentence. It’s sick and to be avoided, curious how opinions are different on this board.
In itself, a cultural difference, if we can call it so, is not enough to make me scummy. I think McGinty and Normal Phase confirmed that this difference is true on the other boards we play together on.
But I knew the “Boohoo”, after my role claim, was a mistake, my other choice was “Teehee”, I so shoulda gone for that.
For the record, Boohoo was meant to show that I was crying at role claiming on day 1, because I don’t like it. Might not have been there if a crying smiley was available, but any way you’re jumping at anything to reinforce the idea that I am scum…
That’s it! I’m about to cry now… booh… er, cries
Yeah, I’ll see you in 3 months, when this game will end