Out of curiousity, what type of filters would men put up on a similar “Top Five Do’s and Don’ts” list?
I already noted that – basically none. Look what Blalron wrote above; this is a very real phenomenon.
Men don’t have lists like that; men think differently as a group.
Men create lists like this to have sex; because females demand them.
My list would be: Don’t kill me. Don’t mutilate my physical being.
Some males might exclude the second one.
-Justhink
:smack:
What are you basing your generalization of all males on, besides yourself?
Well I don’t have lists either, but there are some things that I definitely like, and other things that I definitely do not like and are plain out unacceptable. Example of unacceptable: you.
Observation. The cultural spread and male frustration in the belief that females just want money for sex. Gossip is considered money by the vast majority of males I observe. In terms of friendships; I find that males tend to settle down on contradictions, and then begin to pick up the frequency of them when they are conversing with males who have access to females or when a female is present in the room. This effect is used to lay down an aura that permeates the gossip atmosphere.
In their ‘natural’ state; I notice that males tend to not be as judgemental or quick to judge; and are less likely to believe something without evidence. They are less likely to believe in consent without expressed communication of it.
That it bothers males that females require this.
-Justhink
I have the oddest feeling that I might actually agree with some of what Justhink is saying about the dating/courting rules & whatnot, if only I could translate it into a language I’m familiar with.
Anyone got a newer release of Babelfish than I’ve got?
I find it harder to believe that he claims to be my age (25) in another thread, but is already this much of a wind bag. Usually that sort of thing takes several decades to develop. But what do I know, my lower “cognitive age” probably is what prevents me from understand that he’s not almost wholly incoherent and could use a few basic English classes, he’s just displays more complicated thinking :rolleyes:
My sentiments exactly.
Submitted for your approval: the strange case of Justhink.
In this and many other threads he has had nothing positive to say about women in general or the behaviors and thought processes that he attributes to all women universally, yet he is clearly desperate for a relationship with a woman. He’s as good as admitted to being suicidal over his inability to attract a woman, although he always projects these feelings onto the many other men in the world who he claims to speak for. He is consumed with obsessive desire for a group he has treated with the utmost contempt.
Contradiction!
Justhink me laddie: You’re getting yourself all twisted up and confused. You’re making something terribly, terribly, complex out of a simple set of circumstances.
Brush your teeth, dress nicely, be pleasant (hint) and before you know it, as if by magic, a nice young lady will enter your life. She will become interested in you.
When that happens, never, EVER let her read any of this stuff you wrote before you reached the age of reason.
It’s just so nice to know that chivalry is not dead!
I’ll throw in the other contradiction that brings it to zero if you don’t mind.
The issue is not about attracting another female; the issue is about attracting another female consensually. That is a very provocative claim; which requires extra-ordinary evidence.
I’m attempting to lay the conceptual framework down; in which I would consider this to be true - so that my word is not taken for this redicuously arrogant assertion.
I am quite convinced that the dynamic I’m outlining (though many say they just don’t understand my writing); would emerge conclusively in a series of quadruple blind studies with standards to disprove it as being so stringent that nobody would actually believe that I would be proven correct, given those standards.
I do not believe that my point is false, or that my observation of the dynamics are false. I don’t have the funding to run such a study; and I’d consider it pointless unless I could prove that a million case studies weren’t pre-scripted. There must be a way to allow this observation to be framed logically rather than through sensory data; so that individuals can test it for themselves.
I’m having trouble communicating this aparently.
-Justhink
Sorry, contradictions on top of contradictions only encrypt data further. Attracting another female consentually, implied that females use contradiction as their positive reinforcing selective measure.
You ommitted the word contradiction that I was using in regards to the topic; in effect making it contradict itself. The ‘extra’ contradiction I was eluding to was the use of the word contradiction; not another statement that actively contradicts.
I also want to highlight that you clearly have decisions as a female to read and comprehend something for yourself; to note that I may in fact be correct, and to also note that it does not apply to your specific individual case. You may also conclude that it is correct, and believe that my slant on it is too demanding of people in general; or that you might actually be interested in modifying your behavior in accordance with something which might not have occurred to you before.
I am not suggesting that you don’t have free-will; just that a lack of abstraction dissolves free-will. Hmm… how to put that better.
-Justhink
Justhink, I’m starting to think something is really wrong with you. I pitted you once in the hope it would encourage you to explain yourself in concise, simple language. That we could all understand. But alas, my plan fell through.
Now you’re back with more of the same. sigh
This is an IMHO thread, so I’m going to be nice. And quite frankly, I’m getting concerned. You go on (at length) about your inability to attract a woman. Okay, a lot of guys have this problem, for various reasons. And guys in general always want to know how to attract women, unless they’re already in a committed relationship with a woman or they’re gay. You’re not either of those. And you seem extremely frustrated about that.
All this is perfectly understandable. What is not is your, shall we say, ‘creative’ use of language. You sound like a statistician on a bender. In case you haven’t noticed, people on this message board tend to use a friendly, conversational tone in their posts. They speak well, and concisely, but they don’t get bogged down in pseudo-deconstructionist ramblings and logic abstraction.
For the love of all that is good and holy in this world, please start talking like a normal human being. I am begging you, personally and from the heart, to start making sense. You can find examples of ‘normal’ human speech right here on this message board; some other sources would be friends, family, co-workers, and even strangers. Media examples could be television, movies, books, magazines, and newspapers. Study this. Imitate it. Then, finally, you will be able to communicate effectively with other humans.
On to what your problem seems to be: no woman. If you talk in person like you talk on this board, I’m not surprised. You may be the biggest genius on your block, but (and here’s the important part) NO ONE UNDERSTANDS A WORD YOU SAY. This makes people confused, upset, and sometimes angry. It makes just talking to you more trouble than it’s worth. It makes people avoid you, and question your sanity. If it seems like you need to ‘dumb down’ your speech, well, those are the breaks, kid. Think of it as a concession to expedience. Women (and everyone else in the world, regardless of gender) are probably feeling alienated when you come on with your own special blend of densely-packed nonsense. Stop thinking in terms of ‘social payment’ and ‘rape abuse clause’. 'Cause this sort of thing is getting you nowhere fast.
Forget whatever you’ve been reading in your dark little room. Throw away all your philosophy texts, and your volumes of essays on social theory. Go out with friends. (the kind other people can see) Try talking to a woman. Here’s a sample phrase:
You: Hi, what’s your name?
You’ll notice in this example I avoided using terms like ‘rape abuse clause’ and ‘gossip payment’.
You’ll notice I didn’t start frothing at the mouth about theories of social interaction between the genders, or relationship expectations, or any of the other crap you seem so obsessed with.
Because really, while interesting from a purely intellectual standpoint, none of that is actually worth a tinker’s damn in real life. When you let go of these pre-conceived notions of how people behave, and start judging people on their own merit, individually, you will eventually find someone.
But wait! I’m a woman! Maybe I can give you some inside information. If someone came up to me and started going on about the things you go on about, I’d run away from them. If I were in a relationship with someone and they started in with your brand of nonsense, I’d have to up the dosage. Women (and humans in general) like to be talked to in a way they can easily understand. They want to exchange relevant information, in concise and efficient ways. They want to feel that other people are interested in what they have to say.
So far, you’re 0 for 3.
Like I said before, get the chip out of your head and start talking like a normal human being. Relax. Or your problems are only going to get worse.
Hmm… to explain something about the above post.
It’s a tight box to be able to list options that directly correspond to a persons free-will. I notice that people in general have this problem. I really shouldn’t have to say or tell you that you on the other end have free-will and that I think it is ok; in order for my argument to be valid. You do have free-will; I can’t argue against that. However, by running the processing for your choices there is an effect that seems to trouble people in general that I have personally become very comfortable with.
It is the feeling that no matter how hard you try; this person is always collapsing your will by labelling all of your choices faster than you might have decided them; if you would have ever realized all of them. That someone else is recognizing this broad spectrum from which you cannot escape; and addressing you in those terms.
On my end; I feel like I am violating a consent issue by illustrating my awareness of your choices; because it will do one of three things:
Make you dependant upon my descision process, for your definition of will.
Make you disregard the logic of the arguement because you cannot formulate free-will from it.
Or make you exersize free-will by moving through it.
I find that the third one is the one I prefer; yet all three are calculated within my province so to speak. I’m forcing you to have free-will in order to consent (is that allowing free-will?).
If however, I sugar coat the argument by telling you that you do have free-will; the potential for agreeing with me on that basis alone, causes a loophole with which the logic of the arguement itself depends on my perception of your value in relation to it.
This is how to run a deistic personality; that indentures people to me rather than the argument itself.
I can’t stand deism. I have no desire to be deified in any form; this can be considered one of my operators for discerning what I do or do not say to others. It sounds boastful; unless I can show evidence that people are using the system of deification all of the time to gain appreciation; that it’s not just me, but that I’m pointing it out. Sort of a don’t confuse the message with the messenger. I think ideas are more valuable than any name or persona; and that they should be catalogued in thought form encyclopedias without names attached to them.
I also believe that abstraction itself can be abstracted to such a degree as to render the corruption that comes from variations; impossible to perform without consent.
-Justhink
I had an idea: a “Ask Justhink” column a la Onion. He just keeps rambling on with the same nonsense regardless of what other people write.
Sheesh even I know the answer to this one. Most women like compliments, and I like pleasing women. It makes us both feel good.
Why not, justhink?
I fail to see how this can be construed as a lack of free will.
You don’t get out much, do you?
Somehow I just KNEW this word was coming.