OK, why do YOU expect better from Israel?
Not that his Lady MacBeth routine isn’t touching, but to remind everybody, Damuri himself has admitted that while he’s not an anti-Semite, he is an anti-Israel bigot, and not only does he take no personal responsibility for his bigotry, at all, but actually claims I control his mind and I’ve forced him to be a bigot:
A reminder for those reading along: those “tactics” involve not having unlimited patience with Damuri’s willful ignorance and limitless capacity for dishonesty and stupidity.
Unsurprisingly, dishonest idiots prefer people who don’t call them out. Shocking but true.
Readers should note that Damuri is, yet again, lying through his teeth. Not one person in this thread has proposed discrimatory profiling of Muslims, let alone “Muslims as terrorists”. He’s simply making it up.
Likewise, he is again either lying about not reading my posts and still actively distorts their contents, or lying about having any clue about their contents and he’s simply making shit up to slander me. Because he’s just that kind of incontinent asshole.
Likewise, as opposed to the apologia for “Muslims as terrorists” that he pulled out of his rectum, he is now offering up an actual apologia for loyalty probes of Jews based on nothing other than their ethnicity and their ‘incorrect’ politics, and he’s pretending that it’s merely an accusation that “some” Jews “may” have “divided loyalties”.
Readers should, as usual, take note of the actual sequence of events and the actual facts, as opposed to Damuri’s overactive imagination.
First he claimed that Israel’s citizenship laws were “racist”. A factual refutation was provided, showing that neither race nor ethnicity was the metric, but nationality. And even then, nationality of one nation that’s at war with Israel. He then claimed that this was a “racist” attempt to control population dynamics. Except, Arabs are allowed to immigrate to Israel, Jordanian Palestinians are allowed to immigrate to Israel, and 1/5 of Isreal’s population is descended from Palestinian Arabs who chose to stay and become citizens. Security concerns, that Damuri was willfully ignoring, were also pointed out, showing that his claims of “demographic tampering” were more than a little speculative.
For some reason, these facts drive Damuri into some sort of retard-frenzy.
He decided that factual refutations mean that the person showing he’s an ignorant idiot… must be a racist.
It might even make sense if you’ve suffered severe cranial trauma or were born without grey matter above your brain stem.
Well, like I said, I have no desire to engage in any kind of back and forth with you DA. You are willfully ignorant and engaging with you further serves no purpose.
As to why I expect more out of Israel than I do other nations, that much I’ll answer … several reasons. One is that I think that some of what Israeli administrations have done is against their own long term best interests, and I’d expect them to be able to see that. Two, I think that a nation devoted to a people who have been so historically persecuted owes it *to itself *to behave better in its treatment of others than others have treated them. Three, as an American I want to be able to hold my country to standards higher than I expect of much of the rest of the world, and to some lesser degree, as a Jew I want to see Israel also meet those ethical standards.
I agree with you, DSeid, but I’ve come to the conclusion that nothing of the sort will happen until one of two things happens. Either, A: the generation in office pass on, which will happen in time, or B: people stop funding the Palestinians and they have to start making do on their own.
Arafat made millions on his people, and socked it all away. If Syria stops funding, if Iran stops funding, in time, the leaders of the Palestinans will find it in their own best interests to bargain fairly and honestly.
There’s more a chance of that these days, with the problems elsewhere in the middle east. It gives me hope.
You’re a phenom. You’re like the Lance Armstrong of Stupidity. The Manny Pacquiao of ignorance. Stephen Hawking of dishonesty. You got yourself some mad skills. Just when I think you can’t be any more stupid, you come through with shining idiocy.
First, as I’ve already said more then once, I don’t care when you call me a racist. So I really don’t care if it’s bigotry or racism. Though I did deliver a quick one-line aside to point to your ignorance much earlier in the thread. It’s astonishing that you STILL do not even understand that I don’t care about your bullshit charge of racism. I pointed out that you’re ignorance about “racism” most recently pointing to the argument you were having with DSeid, you dumb bastard. It was just example of the weakness of both your accusations and your mind.
Every post of mine to you was about your lying about what my position is, and then toggling between you won’t substantiate it and you can’t substantiate it. I even included a little quote of your from another thread, one that indicated you might have some grasp on this whole debate thing or had some character. But no, when it came to YOU having to follow YOUR OWN ADVICE, it was too tough for you. I get’s it’s hard to stand up for a principle when you have no backbone.
You dishonest, stupid, ignorant, lying dolt.
But like I said, it’s all good. You, in this one thread have displayed your shittiness as a person with more than one poster. And guess what, it ain’t going away. When you lay your head down on your pillow, it’ll still be here. When you wake up in the morning, it’ll still be here. When you pronate yourself facing Mecca, as a dishonest piece of shit trying to honor your god, you’ll still be the weak-minded, dishonest liar you’ve exposed yourself to be in this thread alone. You put your piece of shit two cents into a thread with lies, and now it’s come back to bite you in the ass.
Sweet, sweet justice. Sweet dreams, snookims.
Even if you don’t care for the passion or tone he might bring to a debate, it would do you well to bring some “Finnesque techniques” to the debate yourself. For instance, a large enough degree of non-stupidity to know what the debate is even about, knowing what the fuck your talking about, and a grasp of at least the most basic logical fallacies.
I can assure you it would serve you better than the the “Damuri techniques” of gross stupidity, profound ignorance, and rampant dishonesty.
But hey, whatever works for you.
Oh, I forgot an important “Finnesque” characteristic it would do you well to emulate: when you make a claim, be able to substantiate it.
Liar.
To be honest, this sounds… not good.
Can you elaborate on what you’re getting at?
It doesn’t matter as “racism” isn’t defined as being towards purely the biological idea of race. “Race” can be seen as a variety of concepts including social.
Looking at the definition of race on dictionary.com we get:
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.
It really is the domain of someone that has a shit argument and knows it when they start arguing that something is some other form of bigotry instead of racism when they are accused of racism. You can be racist against Irish, Italians, Mexicans and whatnot.
I swear we need a FAQ on this I see it so much here.
Actually, you can tell when someone has an utterly shit argument when they start accusing people of racism for providing factual refutations to their assertions.
Your definition is also absurdly broad and rather obviously prone to rhetorical scumfuckery. Why, the Americans went to war during WW II against Germany, Italy and Japan, and not the entirety of Japan? That just shows it was a racist war! And, while we’re at it, every single conflict between two nations, in the history of humanity and in perpetuity, will always be racist. As will most of our trade agreements. After all, we grant certain trade statuses to some nations but not others, obviously that’s racist.
Ignoring your bullshit, what actually happened was that Damuri was reduced to dishonest flailing and accusations of “racism” (or “bigotry” if you prefer) because it was pointed out that a policy that was not targeted at all Arabs, or all Muslims, or Israeli Muslims of Palestinian heritage, or all Arab Muslims of Palestinian heritage, etc… was in fact not a “racist” policy. Instead of admitting his error, Damuri is a slave to his narrative, and therefore anybody who’d explain, and not even defend such a “racist” action must, themselves, be racists.
It’s like:
“We scrutinize Yemenite connections of people because we’re racists.”
“Actually, Yemen is a terrorist hub and it doesn’t seem that our objection is to anybody’s ethnicity as a Yemenite but to the sociopolitical condition in Yemen that…”
“Racist!”
Then again, as you actually once started a thread in ATMB complaining about being insulted in the Pit and wanting Moderator action about it,, a thread in which you admitted “If truth be told, I looked at the rules and tried to find a backdoor way to get Finn Again into trouble”, you may perhaps be missing the finer details at work here.
I do like these sorts of threads. Brings all the roaches out of the woodwork where they demonstrate that if they had anything worth a damn, they’d have thrown it at me by now.
Even Damuri “I’m not listening to you! Hey, did you hear me, I said I’m ignoring you!!!” Ajashi has proven that he simply can’t rage at me without relying on dishonesty to make even the most easily rebutted points.
I might actually have to reevaluate things if it turned out that your coterie had a cogent argument somewhere amidst the angry idiocy.
Stop being a twat.
On a completely unrelated note, we just adopted a local stray and renamed him Finnegan.
Dog or cat? We fostered kittens for a few years while my wife was volunteering at our local shelter, and we ended up with far too many cats. 
Huh? Damuri is wea-minded, dishonest, and a liar. Those are facts. I’m assuming he’s Muslim. If not, that’s a clear error on my part and the whole point can be ignored as being irrelevant. If he is, I’m simply saying that when he prays to his God that he should be aware that he is demonstrating behavior that is far from honorable or something to be proud of. I’m not sure what else you might be reading into it.
Agreed.
Well, as far as I’m aware Damuri hasn’t mentioned his religion and even if he had, I’d be wary about bringing it into a discussion where it’s not relevant. The “your God” bit also seemed somewhat odd. I suppose if the point would’ve been made a bit smoother if you had said something like “You may consider yourself righteous, but your behavior is shameful”, or what have you. I guess my point would be that there’s no need to bring his religion into it, even if he was a devout Muslim. “You’re a dishonest idiot, despite your pretensions of being a rational debater” would be fine, without bringing up details of his religion which really can only muddy the waters.
As for what exactly I read into it, I didn’t. It didn’t parse well for me and I didn’t grok what you were getting at, but the out-of-left-field reference to his religion and the “your God” bit made it sound not good. So, I asked.
But is it okay for him to continue being a pussy?:
And thank you for doing so. I admit that the whole thing could have been phrased more elegantly. The only reason I brought religion into it was to point to a time, like when he goes to bed, when someone would be left with his own thoughts and reflect on his life. Of course, a time of prayer might be when one might do that in the deepest sense, regardless of the particular flavor of religion.
As far as me assuming he’s Muslim, that was simply a guess based on his user name, which sounds Middle Eastern to me. Again, if that assumption was wrong, that’s a mistake I take full credit for and that whole point should be ignored.
I am sorry but this is just very stupid. No the “race” of “racism” never means the number 5 definition. No, Chicagoans and those who live on the Jersey Shore, Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Christians, even the Germans and the Brits, are not different “races” in any usual usage, and Chicagoans who think themselves better than those of the Jersey Shore are not “racist”, nor are Brits who hate Germans, nor are Catholics who think themselves superior to the Orthodox.
Do you also think that “anti-Semitism” means being against Arabs as well as Jews because “Semite” means “a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs”? I bet you do.
He’s stupid, but he’s not that stu…
You may be onto something.
Thats a very compelling argument, I think you’re winning.
Well, that’s good because you are going to have to get used to being called a racist… Oh excuse me a bigot.
I’ve substantiated it several times now. Look back at that links I provided. You may not have krealized you were advocating for the investigation of all Muslims but that is in fact what you were doing. When you advocate for filtering for all muslims because using the other filters without the muslim filter, you would end up missing some muslim terrorists. Well how teh fuck are you going to find those muslim terrorists that aren’t caught by those other filters without investigating all muslims.
Tell me how you would have caught the Fort hood terrorist usign your msulim filter.
I’ve asked you this question several times because you have stated that none of my filters would have picked him up (he had corresponded with known terrorists but it was not obvious unless you read through mail and emails). So how would you haev caught the Fort hood shooter once you had picked him up in your muslim filter?
Tell me how you would identify all the muslims in this country?
Your only defense seems to be that you have never actually said the words “I want to investigate all muslims” which is fine because I never said you said those exact words.
Perhaps so but you display it to the entire board in virtually every thread you participate in.
When did I become a Muslim? Or are you under the impression taht only a muslim would object to bigotry against muslims? I’ve said I’ma Christian several times on this board. Perhaps I’m a secret Muslim like obama.
Don’t worry magellan, the good news is that you will probably stop being a bigot towards muslims when your paralyzing fear of a terrorist attack goes away, the bad news is taht your fear of muslims is likely to be replaced by your fear of some other group that is out to get you.