Just because he says “I have facts” that doesn’t mean he knows what a fact is. For example, in one of my cited links it was said “FBI concluded”. He argued, no, that’s not good enough because it did not say “FBI proved”.
Also, serious absence of proof comprehension (i.e. what constitutes a proof) is rampant and that includes the subject of the thread.
BTW, “nice guys” don’t carry that amount of unwarranted venom. No matter how right or wrong.
Well I generally gave up on GD as I found there to be more then enough very aggressive defenders there. I will say he is one of the parsers and I hate arguing with parsers as it tends to ignore the overall post and picks apart specifics. But again, the parsers seem to be legion among the GD regulars.
In the past, I somehow had managed to question the policy of Israel in regards to the Palestinians without him calling me any names though. Most of the times I have seen him suggest the person is anti-Semite I can see his reasons for doing so. I think you see this mainly when the other person makes his case either without facts or with facts that are not in fact, facts but partial lies. His ire does seem to rise vs. those that ignore his well researched cites.
Somehow I am left confused as why this should be surprising.
Yep. A small coterie of the folks who like to hold forth on the subject but don’t have the first clue like to lie and claim that I’ve called them anti-Semites (Damuri practically lives up on the cross, these days) or as Zombie is now pretending, Nazis. I guess that lie helps them rationalize the fact that they’ve had their heads handed to them in GD. Or something.
Naturally, those people who aren’t dishonest, and even those who are ignorant but not wilfully so, don’t get problems. Hell, Ibn is someone who I just added to my friends list and we have wildly divergent opinions on the history of the Levant, but he actually knows what he’s talking about and is an honest man.
By the way, for those following along newcomer is a spastic idiot who recently drew a Warning in GD because he flipped out at me, repeatedly, every time I refuted his nonsense on factual grounds. He’s also pitched a fit because people keep providing facts that debunk his narrative, and he got quite annoyed that people dared to contradict his beliefs with facts. The subject he’s bringing up here is that he’s a 9/11 Truther who thinks that the Mossad was somehow involved in the attack.
His claim here is, naturally, a distortion. There was never any official FBI findings released, ever.What actually happened was that one reporter for The Forward was told by two separate law enforcement officials that the FBI had concluded that two of the men involved were agents of the Mossad. The fact that it wasn’t an official FBI claim, that it was anonymously sourced and that it stated that a conclusion had been reached, not a fact being proven, was lost on newcomer because, well, he’s none too bright.
More to the point, that same conclusion was that the Israelis had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. But that doesn’t stop newcomer, because 9/11 Truthers have had their brains removed and replaced with wet sawdust.
And, again, although it gives you great pleasure to think that you successfully trolled me, you’re really only laughable, not something to get worked up over. You embarrass yourself and then fap madly thinking that you’ve managed to elevate my blood pressure. It’s really kind of sad.
Rage and incoherent venom, for a rather tepid post pointing out your bullshit? Yah… You’re remarkably thin skinned for a spiteful troll.
And as proven, you were full of shit when you’re babbling about “accusations”. Your own cite contains one single accusation, but you have to dress up your bullshit and now claiming that I made that one single accusation “with abandon”. You’ve also ‘neglected’ to mention that not only did you lie and claim that I was hurling “accusations”, you used that lie to accuse me of trolling.
Again, Clowny was accused of defending a racist because he was defending Red, who is an anti-Semite. But of course are you’re just a spiteful idiot, you haven’t addressed the fact that the “numerous times” I called Red an anti-Semite are because he really is an anti-Semite, and I had a textual citation which proved it.
Oh, so you admit that you were hurling around accusations of anti-Semitism like counterspells from Magic the Gathering. Well, I’ll accept your apology now.
“We”? Oh, I see. You’re starting to realize how badly this thread backfired on you and are now trying to step back and seek protection from some imaginary crowd.
Possibly the surest sign of weakness of both mind and backbone there is.
But, by all means, keep digging. I mean “posting”.
Why do you keep avoiding the FACT (you know your favourite word in English) that the same claim was concluded in a TV aired 20/20 special for which I provided a transcript?
Now, focus on the question and only answer the question. Avoid pitiful diatribes, tireless tirades, ugly denunciations and non-sequential rants. Many people will be shocked but few of us will be delighted.
Simply adhere to what some 1% of your postings evangelize – deal with the facts.
This is your moment to shine and demonstrate to all that you can do it, that you have what it takes, that you are a “nice guy”, reason and wisdom of SDMB in one neat package dry of venom. Or, will you turn to be as concise as you are… in just recent post on this thread.
I didn’t read the second page because I wasn’t interested enough to do so, but has it actually been established that FinnAgain is, indeed, a kind of shitty person?
FinnAgain is a “nice guy” only for values of “nice guys” that coincide exactly with “belligerent bigots”. But in all fairness, I’ve only read a third of this thread because FinnAgain and magellan01 are both on my ignore list. So for a slight digression I will admit that magellan01 does make FinnAgain look intelligent by comparison. What a drooling idiot.
Some words of advice. You’re a much better debater than I am in many ways, but I think there are a few things I can still teach you. For instance, if you want to avoid more threads like this, I think you should follow the old writing dictum: show, don’t tell. If you think someone’s stupid, don’t call them stupid - show us their stupidity. If you think someone’s lying, don’t call them a liar - show us their lies. If you think someone’s an anti-semite… just give them some rope. They’ll hang themselves eventually.
And whatever you do, don’t act like they’ve got you ruffled. In fact, don’t act like you even care. They’re just people on the internet. Nothing that happens here really matters.
You are dumber than a bag of hair that’s marked as a bag of hammers.
The actual claim comes from the Forward, I linked it and quoted it. 20/20 was reporting on what The Forward reported. Likewise, I actually quoted and cited 20/20 and just re-linked you to it, and you’re ignoring it. Their comment was not that it was a proven fact that the men were from the Mossad, but that there is still debate in the intelligence community over whether or not they were. The relevant point was that both The Forward and 20/20 agreed on the fact that there was absolutely no evidence that the men had anything to do with 9/11, and that was the judgment of the intelligence community and the FBI, as well.
But, naturally, are you are a 9/11 Troofer who thinks that the Mossad had something to do with it, you’d like to somehow change the subject.
Now, finally, why don’t you lay out your conspiracy theory and how the Mossad was involved with 9/11. Feel free to fit in your JAQing Off about passports surviving the crash, and whatnot, but flesh it out from your mere JAQing Off to actually make an argument rather than vomiting up insinuation. Can you?
You don’t know what the word “bigot” means but you think it makes a good insult. This is… odd.
You’re also too stupid to understand that when someone says “I’m not saying it’s polytheism” to allegege that they’re calling something “polytheism” makes you look even dumber than you normally manage.