How can you even joke about this? A grown man, throwing water on kids? How would that look? Grown man. Water. Kids!!! Children even. FUCKING CHILDREN, WHY WON’T YOU THINK OF THE FUCKING CHILDREN???
To me, Alice the Goon’s advice doesn’t make her look crazy, just incredibly stupid.
I would pay to see you act that out.
I think that’s what got us into this mess of not being able to use that method in the first place…
I was going to ask, what’s a caltrop? but figure I could go look it up myself. Now I have visions of injured camels, horses and elephants in my head. Damn you Hal Briston! If you didn’t have such cute cats I’d be really pissed off at you.
Dunno, I didn’t read it as being a serious suggestion. Perhaps I was fooled by the :p.
Plus it sounds like something I’d say as a joke.
Call Children and Family Services and tell them an unattended 10 year old is running around at 11:00 at night.
Huh? No, we meant these caltrops, we were planning on Ray of Frosting them to death.
I don’t know what Ray of Frosting meant, but that’s a pretty cool-looking caltrop.
Save versus poison or spend 1D4 turns hopping about, going “Ow! Ow! Ow!”
Huh. I juust realized that that’s what the Pokemon attack “Spikes” is. Neat!
So you’re saying that Chimera should threaten to show the kids his pokemans? I wonder if they leik mudkipz.
For the record, I actually have a pretty dark sense of humor. Alice the Goon’s suggestion just wasn’t especially funny, and she apparently meant it since she later defended it as being useful advice.
I’m not one of those OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN sorts of people – hell, I’m actually not even thinking of the kid here at all, but of the OP. Considering the idiotic neighbors he has, I would absolutely believe them capable of getting offended at his allegedly threatening his daughter, especially since they’ve already shown themselves willing to yell at him for cursing and videotaping her.
Speaking of the OP, he still hasn’t answered those of us who’ve asked about his other neighbors. If the police are saying “it’s just your word against theirs,” can’t you seek other witnesses to this little hellion’s activities?
Hey Chimera-
Dude, that all sucks. I had a really terrible neighbor like that, very loud at all hours. I complained to the neighbors, to the office, to the owner of the building (who asked me if I was on my period, and if that was why I was so angry).
Finally I called the non-emergency number for the police and after apologizing for taking up their time with such a non-emergency issue, asked them what to do. They said to absolutely call them if there was a noise complaint.
As soon as I posted a note on my neighbor’s door informing them that I would be contacting the police the next time they made late-night noise, the table were turned. The manager didn’t want to cops there. The neighbor didn’t want the cops there.
So kudos to you for bringing the authorities into. As someone else has mentioned on this thread, definitely keep records of everything - when the noise occured, the people with whom you spoke, the actions you took. You’ll be glad you kept records.
The office refuses to speak about any other complaints against these people.
But as I said, both the after-hours guy and the engineer have admitted that they have seen the girls around late at night, and I did hear round-about that someone near the other apartment they run back and forth between had complained.
The other night after I’d called the on-call and got his wife, I heard the girl telling her mother that someone on the first floor (we’re on the third) had been yelling at her about running in the halls. The girl seems to have this idea that any adult that says boo to her about it is in the wrong. Wonder how she got that idea. :rolleyes:
The neighbors across the hall (directly adjacent to the bad people) are a young couple with odd hours. I’ve only spoke to them once about it and the guy was kind of “um, what?” I did hear the wife walk out in the hall last week and ask the girl to keep it down one evening around 7pm because she was sleeping.
On the other side - someone allegedly lives there, but I’ve never seen him and notices stuck in his door tend to stay there for weeks at a time.
The next two units down are positioned such that their doors are much farther down the hall.
Beyond that, I’m not going knocking around just to see how people feel about it.
The office person (who isn’t the manager) is the one who told me it was my word against theirs. No other management people have ever said this before, they’ve always stated that they believed it was happening but needed to catch them in the act themselves. (Although as I told the after hours person - “Just come around on any given night around 11pm and you’ll catch them” - and yet they HAVE NOT done so.)
The Police told me “If they aren’t doing anything about it, stop talking to them and call us every time this happens.”
I would suggest doing what the cops say. I wouldn’t have waited even this long to start calling them.
It’s best not to talk to the children at all, and it was stupid for the office to tell you to photograph them. In this day and age, if you are a male over 12 years of age, you are a child molester until proven otherwise. Plus you don’t want to give the parents any kind of a pretense for saying you threatened or intimidated the kid. The parents are the real problem anyway, not the kid.
I would strongly suggest that you make sure to videotape any interactions the parents may initiate with you, however. If they come to your door, videotape anything they say or do.
In my experience, the only thing that ever works at all with loud apartment tenants is calling the cops. Management never does anything.
I wonder if it might be possible to sue the complex to get out of your lease, or for some kind of compensation if they are not able to provide you with the ability to have peace and quiet in the partment you pay for. A letter with a lawyer’s letterhead might get their attention.
All that sort of stuff requires $$$ from a guy on the verge of bankruptcy. In other words, not going to happen.
As I explained to the officer, the only reason I haven’t called them to date is logistical. I call them, they have to get into the building and see it happening. With neighbors known to run inside, lock their doors and turn off the lights the minute they hear me touch my door at that time of night. Who have stood in the hall advising their child to swear that she was home in bed all night if anyone asks.
If these were adult males doing this, it would be over. I’d have called the cops, or the complex would have done something, or I’d eventually have walked out into the hall and had it out with them. But it would be over. Since it involves children and lying parents, it is a bit more problematic.
But yeah, from here on out, it’s a simple 911 call, early in the noise cycle so that it’s still going when the cops arrive and knock on their door.
I’d love nothing more than the cops to knock on their door, for them to claim that their child is in bed asleep, then have the kids come running up the stairs, open the door behind the officers and go “oh”.
Well, if moving isn’t in the financial picture, I wish you good luck in getting these people to start acting like decent human beings (I’m sure you aren’t holding your breath either, though 
).
If a user sent you a nasty PM (which is against the rules), and you let them get away with it, you are facilitating the same problem the kids (and their parents) have–no one punishes them for doing what is wrong, so they continue to do it.
I was gonna make this a private message, but we’re in the Pit, so what the heck.