Bastard 
Care to elaborate?
I can’t wait to see the Wolf thread to see what plotting they were up to.
It fascinates me (having read the almost last two weeks worth of game posts in more or less one sitting today–it being my first extended internet access in that time) that Nanook wasn’t a witch, and the real witch didn’t announce himself until after Nanook was both revealed as scum and doomed to mod-kill for editing. (Assuming I recall the sequence of events correctly). I’m not criticizing MHaye’s gameplay–especially with a dead witch or two, who wants to get caught up in a game of Which Witch? if one can be protected by invisibility. But still, one of the reasons I believed Nanook to be a witch was the absense of a counter-claim.
I was also shocked by the high number of kills the night Nanook was modkilled, having forgotten that killing the necromancer should reduce the creation of zombies but does not directly affect the number of kills likely. (I also, for reasons which are no longer clear to me, had decided two weeks ago that there most likely was a Vig, but that the Vig had been killed early on–I don’t think I’d picked a particular player as a likely Vig, just figured with all the dead Townies, one of them was most likely a Vig).
The Witches felt cornered because Nanook was pretty much announcing their investigations. Without anything to give the Town other than “what he said”, they decided a Witch counter-claim wouldn’t be prudent. A combination of brilliant play and luck on Nanook’s part.
Once the Witch and Cabal boards are made public you can read in more detail.
There were also some strange circumstances in the Freemason investigations.
Sure - always happy to display my brilliance 
I don’t think this spoils anything, including strategy, since all the Witches are out in the open now.
Night 3 the discussion had turned toward trying to find and eat a Witch. Someone brought up hawkeyeop as a possibility and I looked at him, reporting this:
Then I did another look, and posted this:
To me, those read as a Witch who knew Nanook was lying and posted a pretty strong suspicion of him, then realized she had probably laid it on a little thick, and used peeker’s post to back off and unvote. Then that third quote was the clincher, sort of a subtle “go get him, other scum.” It was enough for me and to convince the others.
FTR, I noticed the same things as Shadowfacts. I even mentioned on the spoiler boards how the last post he quotes was particularly noteworthy of her exposing her hand. I was just surprised that she wasn’t taken out that night.
Well, we took out another Witch that night instead 
Interesting Day today, as we approach the lynch. There’s been a lot of dancing around, feinting, and pretty good analysis. If the Wolves can avoid a lynch, they can probably string it out for a couple more Days, but from my perspective it looks like Town is going to cruise through now, even if they mislynch toDay.
Why would you post this in an unspoiled thread?
Because I am an idiot. :smack:
Wow, what an end to the Day
I will be interested to see how much flak Zsofia gets for her last minute change… In the only game I have played in thus far Town screwed itself (and I was a major offender) by assuming that anyone who changed a vote at the last minute must be scum.
I’d be extremely surprised if Zsofia turns up scum. She’s pretty much confirmed town in my mind. Scum simply would not do what she just did. Doesn’t make sense. The motivation for town to do what she did is much stronger. Plus I thought what storyteller stated (meta-game says Zsofia must be Town) since she was un-killed.
As Town she wants a lynch, so switching her vote is well motivated to avoid the tie.
As Scum, she really doesn’t care if a no-lynch happens. As long as it isn’t her, she should be satisfied. Sticking her neck out like that is the exact opposite of what scum would want to do. Someone went even as far as to suppose that Zsofia and NAF are both Cabal, which is even stranger.
I’ll be extremely surprised if Zsofia turns up scum. Pollux Oil’s statement that Zsofia did what she did because storyteller and MHaye might have both voted for her is the most scummy statement I think. Does anyone really believe Zsofia felt in danger? Does anyone actually think storyteller and MHaye would both agree to vote for Zsofia? I certainly don’t. I expect Pollux Oil to turn up scum. The scum play would have been to lay low and watch the vote like a hawk and see if both storyteller and MHaye decide to vote Zsofia. If they did, then she could last minute change her vote to push a no-lynch. She would have completely outed herself in doing so, but the risk is worth it because the chance of both storyteller and MHaye voting for Zsofia were slim to none!
Gah!
Oh, and Cookies (if she really is a vig) should absolutely NOT target drainbead. drainbead is a WOLF, they KNOW this. drainbead must die last; she is their insurance policy against a Cabal win. Killing her now is absolutely the wrong move. Cookies (if she really is a Vig) should target an unknown. Hell, target Zsofia. Everyone will love that.
drainbead probably should announce to the Vampire and Cabal her intention of killing Koldanar (she still has time to do so). No one can stop her except for the Cabal, and they have no reason to not want Koldanar dead. Then the Vampire can target someone else (MHaye probably). All scum need to whittle down the confirmed Town list, and Town needs to whittle down the unconfirmeds. Quite frankly, if Cookies isn’t a Vig, I don’t see how Town can pull this off.
With all this talk of whether or not two scotsmen is unbalancing, I think having two scotsmen is pretty much Town’s best chance at possibly winning. Either Cookies needs to be a Vig and there is one scotsman, or Cookies is not a vig and there are two scotsmen gives town a decent chance at winning. If there is only one scotsman and cookies is not a Vig, I don’t see how Town can win… well, they could, but Pollux Oil would need to be the Vampire.
Gah. I’m so stupid. For the same reasons I stated that town needs Cookies to be a Vig to win, Cabal should block Cookies tonight.
It is in the best interest for scum for:
- Drainbead to announce that the Wolves are killing Koldanar.
- For Cabal to block Cookies.
- For the Vampire to kill a confirmed Town.
In order for Town to have enough firepower to win, they must either take out the Vampire ASAP or pray that Cookies really is a Vig and they take out the Cabal.
peeker sure is being pushy about the Town’s secret power. And I’m really surprised about how much Omi has said about it.
**peeker’s **like a dog with a bone once he gets something stuck in his craw. Count on him to mention it many times, with various different analogies. Love playing with that guy - he cracks me up.
sach, I think the Town’s chances are much better than you do. With the Necromancer confirmed dead, all the zombies are dead, which means that the last Vampire (assuming there is another one, which seems very likely) must be the last one standing to win. That’s going to be pretty much impossible with all the confirmed Town out there. Cabal must take out all Wolves and Undead without getting killed, assuming there are still any left (I think there probably are). If the Town is right that **Drain Bead **is the Omega Wolf, they’ve got a good strategy for avoiding a Cabal win. We know there are 5 Wolves dead, so there can’t be that many left alive. With Scotsman and Magician claims, some of which are likely true, it’s going to be hard for the Wolves to ween the Town’s numbers down enough. All in all, I suspect it’s going to be Town in a cakewalk (although I hope not )
You have different information than I do and that the Town has. I look at the unconfirmed and see scum scum scum. You know which ones are wolves (and how many wolves are left) so can see town pulling out a win. I look at the situation as Town needs all unconfirmeds either confirmed (scotsmen and vicar) or dead. Town doesn’t have enough killing power to off all the unconfirmeds, they either need two to turn into confirmeds or have cookies be a Vig and kill them all off ASAP.
You’re right that I have more information than you and Town, but only on the subject of Wolves, so my information advantage is not absolute. Also, I should note that Town doesn’t need all unconfirmeds to be confirmed or dead. Town won the first Conspiracy with me alive and unconfirmed – even unclaimed – at the end. They just need to choose…wisely.