Now you’re assessing the timbre of her laughter in order to decide what she did and didn’t mean? Ooooookay. :rolleyes:
magellan:
My statements didn’t contradict each other in the least. She is characterizing the remark as “a lame attempt at humor.” The most reasonable interpretation of that, assuming that it’s true, is that she thought it was funny when she made it, which is why she made it, and then came to realize after the fact that other people didn’t find it funny at all. Nothing particularly difficult about that.
I slice it a *little *differently. I don’t think she thought it was funny when she made it. I think it’s one of those things that you’re trying to be funny on the spot and something comes out of your mouth and you know it’s not funny, or appropriate, that you botched it and shouldn’t have attempted the humor. Not to put too fine a point on it, the statement you made made it sound as if she thought it was funny after (albeit, immediately) it came out, and then later, after the shit came down, she realized that it was a lame attempt. But I think we’re pretty much in agreement.
I saw this before I came to the pit thread or before I heard it was such the big deal, here’s my take. She was talking about the suggestion that some thought Hillary meant to suggest knocking off Obama but said Osama instead. After the Osama came out it was more of a “him too” (speaking for Clinton). The nervous laughter was probably more of a “that didn’t come out like I meant it”.
As I posted on another board, she looks like she is making a joke, but it’s a really, really bad one - so bad that it is actually a death wish for a candidate who will most likely be a presidential candidate in a month. I’ve had my foot in my mouth once or twice, but it didn’t usually involve wishing anyone else dead, regardless of which political party they were in.
But that is exactly what she did. Did you not see the clip? Or read her quote? She said it jokingly but she did say it would be good to knock him off.
And QED, what the hell are you talking about? She didn’t mistakenly make a joke. She made the joke. The only slip was the word ‘Osama’. She did not slip up and say “both, if we could” by accident.
A bad and tasteless joke is more than a mere slip-up.
She was speaking about Hillary’s own assasination blunder. She meant to say ‘Obama’ but said ‘Osama’ then joked that we should knock them both off. The slip was ‘Osama’ the supposed joke was about knocking them both off. The offensive part was not the slip of the tongue but the deliberate joke about knocking off both Osama and Obama.
I may be being very naive but I don’t think it’s a editorial decision of the station, rather I think that the type of right winger* that they employ has spent so much time commenting on/joking about the Osama thing that they find it hard not to do it on air.
*Not all obviously but it seems quite a few have made this error.
Sure is a good thing she isn’t employed in a position that requires her to speak intelligently off-the-cuff on matters of great significance in a medium of extraordinary power or anything.