There are certainly areas in which men suffer from systemic denial of equal treatment under the law…custodial awards following divorces, for one example.
Why shouldn’t someone advocate against that?
Rhetorical amirite ?
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My guess is that his personality was just that unattractive.
Or hire a prostitute.
ETA: Maybe he tried that, and they didn’t want him either.
Antipua?
He’s pissed off because he kept not winning the lottery. Seriously.
I heard a report that he had Asperger’s, if true, he had no ability to relate to people. He probably came across as weird in person. The Santa Barbara sheriffs also say they had had dealings with him three times in the past, but I don’t know what those dealings involved.
Does anybody know who the three dead people in his apartment were? And are they being counted in the six dead?
If he was being treated by psychologists, how did he get guns? Several of them?
While I don’t doubt there are a lot of sincere and principled people (both male and female) advocating against discrimination and unfair gender expectations imposed on men, by far the most vocal and visible segment of the self-identified “Men’s Rights Activism” movement seems to be largely made up of resentful misogynist whiners.
“Anti-PUA”, short for “pickup artist”. manboobz comments:
This is like saying that a mentally handicapped person has no ability to do math. The guy may have been socially dysfunctional. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t have any ability.
Not the same thing at all.
No, whining about “men’s rights” is as stupid as whining about discrimination against white people.
I agree with Rick Kitchen here **monstro. ** One of the problems that arises when every slightly odd or quirky kid gets a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome is that we then tend to minimise the impact of of the symptoms for everyone so diagnosed. Asperger’s can be truly crippling in it’s most severe form, and whilst we don’t know the circumstances yet of Elliot’s medical history, it is quite telling that there was a 22 yr old, good looking and otherwise privileged male who had NO FACEBOOK FRIENDS whatsoever.
There’s something really sad about that. Not that I place any value in FB or the friend status, but for many socially-dysfunctional-in-real-life people FB has been a godsend in that it gives them a sense of being part of the social fabric. To have no FB friends at all screams out a major disability.
But anyway, yeah, still fuck him.
Caveat: I agree that legal disadvantaging of men, like legal disadvantaging of whites, is pretty trivial in the US (and in most if not all other historically-majority-white and historically-patriarchal societies).
But ISTM as a white female that in terms of societal expectations, the legacy of patriarchy is more restrictive towards men than the legacy of racism is towards whites. Men still get fed a lot of sexist bullshit that they’re not allowed to cry, they’re not supposed to like domestic tasks or be any good at them, they’re supposed to be tall and muscular, they’re supposed to prove their worth by excelling at fighting and getting laid, etc. etc. etc.
Whites as an ethnicity, on the other hand, are allowed to do or be pretty much whatever they please: they aren’t seriously pressured into any kind of “race roles” the way that men (and women too, of course) are still pressured into gender roles.
Sadly, the most vocal and visible “men’s rights” supporters are actually embracing restrictive gender roles rather than resisting them. In fact, one of the reasons they profess hate for feminists is that feminism undermines traditional gender roles for men and women alike.
Sorry, this is a load of crock.
Asperger’s is an autism spectrum disorder. A spectrum. It describes people who are so handicapped they need to be institutionalized. And it also describes people who have children and SO’s and, believe it or not, friends.
It describes people with little, some, many, and no abilities.
Just like any condition, from blindness/deafness to schizophrenia to diabetes. And also mental retardation. I’m guessing your average mentally disabled person is more handicapped than your typical person with Asperger’s Syndrome. But if someone told me that being mentally disabled means you have no ability to reason, I’d think that person had never met anyone who is mentally disabled before. Because that’s a pretty stupid thing to say. And it’s stupid to say that someone with high-functional autism has no ability to relate to people. This is simply not true at all. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what autism is.
I have no FB friends either. Guess I need to quit my job and move into a group home for the developmentally disabled.
The IPUAhate.com website seems to have been taken down.
Someone who seems to be associated with that site has created a fake Elliot Rodger facebook page defending the site.
WTF? Did you read my post at all (let’s leave out that you actually QUOTED it)?
What were you agreeing with Rick Kitchen about? I thought I had made it clear that I took issue with him saying that a diagnosis of Asperger’s means Rodgers had “no ability to relate to people”. If you weren’t agreeing with this bit, then I apologize for jumping down your throat.
If you were, then my comment still stands.