80% of Americans polled recommended legalizing medical marijuana, and you see how well that’s going.
Laws take time to change. Look at how long the Jim Crowe laws were left on the books, propped up by a few vile, bigotted fundamentalists who didn’t want to see blacks have the same opportunities as whites. Now we’ve got the same thing with anti-gay laws. Society, particularly the youth of society, have moved beyond this bigotry, but there are still vocal men who feel like pkbites, and who work hard to ensure that equality under the law remains an elusive goal for gays.
People like pkbites are a dying breed, thank God. Their virulence speaks to this fact: they’re raging against the dying of the dark; they detest the light of equality, and cling to the false hope that spouting Bible verses, calling people “perverts” and disassociating from their family members who don’t tow this line can reverse the tides of equality.
They will fail in their endeavors, and become very old, very unhappy men, like the old bigots in the South who would still spit on an interracial couple as soon as look at them. They’ll pass away, like the slaveholders, the anti-women’s suffragists, the Know Nothings and the fascists, and be looked upon, properly, with the exact same derision we now reserve for all the other failed experiments in institutional bigotry.
Kirk
Appeal to Popularity
(argumentum ad populum)
Next.
I repeal all statements I have made in this thread.
< Star Trek Super-Computer >
But. you. made. that. statement. in. this. thread.
Therefore. you. repeal. your. statment. of. repeals.
But. if. you. repeal. your. statement. of. repeals. you. don’t. repeal. your. statements.
But. if. you. don’t. repeal. your. statements. then. your. statement. of. repeal. stands.
But if your. statement. of. repeals. stands. then. you do. repeal. your statement. of. repeals…
bbbbbzzzzzzzttttt…
:: smoke pours out of super-computer’s blinky-light bank ::
:: super-computer explodes ::
< /Star Trek Super-Computer >
Fenris
There is, indeed, a method to our madness, eris.
Esprix
::: wonders if Gobear has me on ‘ignore’ these days :::
I agreed explicitly with his position, after asking a question about an apparent contradiction in it, over in the flagburning thread.
I explicitly stated the same position as he’s taken here.
And I find that nobody is supporting him.
So I’m adding this post to say that I fully understood and am supporting you in that thread and this one.
And if you don’t answer me, I’m gonna hijack this thread to sing you the Barney song! 
No it hasen’t. Virtually every teenager I know today is a homophobe. The ones I meet online are too. We have NOT gotten over homophobia, and probably never will.
That’s weird, because pretty much every teenager I know today has at least one gay or bisexual friend and it doesn’t seem to squick them at all.
Hell my old high school, formerly the most repressed place on the planet (BTW guys, thank you for spending four years calling me Satan and wishing I would burn in a lake of fire for witchery) now allows gay students to take their gay dates to dances. No fuss, no claptrap, it’s just de facto ‘allowed.’
I think the world is getting MORE tolerant, because of the young people I know they’re not really homophobic, but they all have some sort of squick level about sex in general.
‘Lick a girl WHERE?’
Actually every teenager I’ve met is very homophobic. Then again, I live in Chillicothe, Ohio, where homophobia runs rampant and inbreeding is commonplace.
As of this year, a hefty majority of college freshmen support gays being given the right to marry, according to polling data. Sure, teenagers are brats who hate everyone, but as they mature, they’re turning out far more tolerant than their parents, and look at gay rights as an extension of civil rights, by and large.
Of course, perhaps the bigots are the ones who never make it into college. That wouldn’t surprise me. Of course, they won’t form the core of decision makers for the next generation.
When I see kids coming out as gay, bi, or questioning at 16, 15, 14, even 13, I gotta think progress is being made somewhere. Sadly, it’s not being made everywhere, but it’s a start.
Esprix
I don’t. At least not anymore. This one dude who hung out with my friends and I made some strange statements about some other guy and it wierded everyone out. Now he hangs out with a different group.
People just being gay is one one thing, but when they start talking in front of me about what kind of sex things they want to dosomeone else. Ugh. I don’t want to hear that. “In your face” gays are really obnoxious. There are some at my school like that. They can’t wait to tell you they’re gay, then they keep telling you like they’re waiting for you to say the wrong thing so they can get you in trouble or something.
Yeah, you’re gay. Get out of my face.
Which is just how I feel about straight people who choose to be graphic and vulgar about their desires and exploits.
Not every straight person does it, just like every gay person doesn’t do it.
“In your face straights” are every inch as bad and annoying.
Hey pkbites…
I’m 18, male, and gay. I’m also on the prom committee at my high school. We have a splendid evening planned. Would you be my date?
sniff It’s always the jerks who get the boys, isn’t it? Nice guys can’t get any breaks.
matt, you can be my date - and we don’t even need a prom for an excuse to wear taffeta!
Esprix
Yeah, well, I hate that bullshit too. Anybody who overdoes any topic gets annoying, be it one’s fondness for cock or, I don’t know, Simpsons quotes. However, I don’t see anywhere near as many “boy do I need some pussy/boy did I just get a lot of pussy, HIGH FIVE” posts as I see these threads/posts’ gay counterparts.
Call me a prude but I don’t like anybody shoving their sex life in my face. I don’t wanna see people mauling each other in public whether they’re straight, gay, screwing chimpanzees…
My close friends of all sexual orientations have a whole lot more of my tolerance level when it comes to the ‘I need some dick/pussy/ass/tits’ kind of statements or telling me what they did gymnastically on the kitchen table with the canola oil and the polar water delivery guy. But really, when someone I don’t know very well makes a point of specifically addressing their sex life to me as a ‘Look how wonderful my sex life is, I’m always getting laid and doing all these kinky things and it’s so wonderful’ type of thing, I just get annoyed and start ignoring it. Really, what’s the point of saying something like that to a nearl total stranger? Why do they care that I know everything they do on top of the Kenmore?
Nice? Don’t make me laugh.
- s.e.